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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july

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8th 1947 the army air forces has

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announced that a flying disc

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has been found and is now in the

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possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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from outside this world

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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the global radio alliance

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you are listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening

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bespoke radio

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for the messes

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yeah man how you doing today is tuesday

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march 23

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2021 82 days into the new year

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only 283 days left

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let's go

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we are live from a bunker

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a bunker that is somewhere in the middle

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of beautiful downtown burbank

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california i would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the united states hither and

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to and fro back and forth

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east and west north and south far

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and near this is fade to block for kjcr

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the game changer network and kgra the

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i am your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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how you doing all right

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what an amazing week on the show been

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2000 shows right

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and every week just gets better and

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tonight very special guest eric mitchell

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is here eric is here for the first time

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eric has been become a voice

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in our community and you've been looking

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forward to this show for a long time

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tonight eric mitchell is here

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tomorrow night right here on fade to

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black it's the return

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of terry lovelace that's right

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you know ambassador to american samoa

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assistant attorney general in vermont

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and also ufo contact all

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of that tomorrow night with terry

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lovelace he's also an attorney

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what a life what a career and his new

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and that's tomorrow night terry lovelace

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it's another fader night with open lines

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all night long now um been talking about

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ghost investigation with the dark zone

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at the police precinct and

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museum right here in los angeles

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and the links for it are posted

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throughout all of our social media so

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it's easy to get to we'll pop it up in

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and in a few minutes i will be joined

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and that that's that's that's radio talk

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that's hype i'm hyping this up i'm

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so just stay right there and uh

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i you know what i almost i almost

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slipped right now

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i'm not gonna do it you gotta wait you

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i'm looking at the studio clock atomic

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you got five minutes and 30 seconds so

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just get straight to it i will be at the

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ufo megacon

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june 6th through the 12th in laughlin

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seven day ufo conference coming to hang

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out with us because this is live

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in person that's right it's not a

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virtual online conference this is a real

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conference

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for tickets and information but i'll be

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there i'll be hosting

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going to be doing sky watches hanging

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out with all of you

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you're going to be wearing all of my

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t-shirts

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with my face on it all over that place

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and i cannot wait to hang out

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with all of you believe me after a year

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and a half of no conferences

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i'm itching to get out there and eat

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some bar food

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and and have a chilled margarita with

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all of you so come and hang out with us

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that is june 6th through the 12th

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in laughlin nevada at the aquarius hotel

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and casino follow me on twitter at j

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church radio simple enough

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at j church radio and

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hashtag f2b is the sandbox hashtag f2bq

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is fade to black questions

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all right i announced this last night

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let me get to this quickly

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river moon coffee makers of my coffee

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right now that's going on through

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thursday night over

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all right we've got all the links and

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everything is up in

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social media let's get straight to it uh

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happy birthday to today randall park

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is 47. he played kim jong-un

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in the interview that was a great role

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danny chung on veep so funny great actor

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blur front man damon albarn today

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is 53 and you know that that song

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it's called song two you tapped your

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toes to that

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you know you did it's got like 250

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views on youtube i'm not exaggerating

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our dead guy's birthday today is rick

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o'kasick of the cars 1947

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to 2019 we all know about the cars but

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he married supermodel paulina porzkova

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in 1989 and she ended up finding him

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last year

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dead of natural causes in their new york

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he was 75 he lived the rock and roll

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life

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on this day in history 1983

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in an address to the nation man i

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remember this like it was yesterday i

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can't believe it's 1983.

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president ronald reagan announces the

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strategic defense

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initiative sdi remember that

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otherwise known as star wars

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freaked out the country freaked out the

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world freaked out

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the soviet union fader fact

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there are three types this is a fact

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this is vetted

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there are three types of australian

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that deliberately spread wildfires

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that's right black kites

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whistling kites and brown falcons

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in australia all pick up and

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drop flaming sticks

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just so the fire will flush out their

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prey and make it easy

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for them to catch and i'm not making

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that up and that

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is your fader fact tonight very special

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with us eric mitchell for the first time

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been anticipating this show for a while

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eric mitchell

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joins us tonight tomorrow night it's the

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return of terry lovelace his new book is

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out

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and it is called devil's den the

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reckoning and

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there you go you can pick up the book

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over on amazon we have all the links

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over at jimmychurchradio.com thursday is

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another fader night with open lines

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all night long now i

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made it this weekend i'll be with the

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dark zone we are doing a ghost

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the event goes on 24 hours a day friday

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in person on saturday the 27th

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so go and get your tickets go to

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it's it's right there we've got the

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posters of i think we've got a

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joining me on fade to black right now

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is ryan cassidy now ryan

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is a member of the board of the los

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david cassidy brother that is sean

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cassidy that's right he is the son of

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shirley jones and jack cassidy

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ryan this is my pleasure my honor

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welcome to the show how you doing i'm

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great jimmy how are you doing

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you know um uh ryan i gotta tell you and

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uh we're gonna be talking about

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everything that's going on this weekend

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but when when people speak with you

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um what's it like you know because

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you get addressed as as show business

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royalty does that ever get old

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it doesn't get all that you know i i

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i uh you know i i'm very um

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i love history number one that's one of

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my one of the reasons why

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i'm on the board at the police museum i

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particularly love the history of los

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angeles and the police department but

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i love hollywood history i grew up in it

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i'm constantly talking about my family

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when when people come up to me and about

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their legacies particularly with my

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young when i was young i was 10 years

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for me because you know i i don't

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look at i i look at it

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in terms of my family has brought a lot

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of happiness to people

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and i want to you know i want to

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that means a lot to me my mother you

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was everybody's mother she was my mom

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wait a minute wait a minute she was my

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yes yeah and and she's still around with

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us she's going to be 87 on march 31st

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matter of fact she's got a big story

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about her on the cover of closer

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magazine that

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comes up in about a week and about our

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more photos of my mom and dad

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all the shows they did i just i love it

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i love it i'm

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proud of them i'm proud to be a cassidy

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and um and yet i work i work in the film

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business i was an actor for the first

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25 years of my career or my life and

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then i switched gears and became

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what they call a set dresser which is

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kind of like a set decorator but

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uh so i work in tv and film and i have

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for a number of years i loved

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uh decorating always have and i made it

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work

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for myself in this business and i'm

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constantly on old

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sound stages where all these great

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movies were made and i just love it

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so it's it's a lot of fun and i'm very

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grateful

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for my life and for my family

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and i'm very close to my brothers the

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two brothers that are still with me

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uh sean and patrick so i have a i have a

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lot to talk about you know

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yeah there's no question about that and

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i want to get to the museum but

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can i ask you one question just for me

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well in the audience you know it's it's

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just you and i uh ryan

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is this yeah no no um i remember uh when

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david

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left this earth right and and and i jump

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in i'm looking at pictures of the family

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and and i saw and i'm like look at ryan

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holy crap right and so anyway

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tell me what it's like going around

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where you don't know anybody you're just

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doing your thing but you get the second

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looks don't you

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i mean because it's in your dna well

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when people look at me and they they see

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what's your last name i say cassidy and

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they said wait a minute

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are you related to the cassidies you

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look just like your dad or your brother

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like yeah i

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am i am i'm the youngest in in the in

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the group of the immediate family

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i'm the 55 year old baby and um

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it's uh again i don't you know i never

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had this feeling like well i didn't have

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the success that david had if sean had

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or you know what and darn it why didn't

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i get that

335
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never had that feeling you know we all

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create our own

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our own path in life and i created mine

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and where i'm at in my life

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is exactly where i'm supposed to be and

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that's how i view things

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and um i i just as i said i it's a great

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feeling to be

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um to be you know looked at as oh my god

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you're you know your father

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he's my favorite actor or your mother

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you know it's the best

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and um as i said before my family's made

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a lot you know they've brought a lot of

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happiness to so many people through the

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years

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and um that's a that's a lot to be said

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you know for a family and

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you know they've for the most part

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they've escaped

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um the drama a lot of the yeah the drama

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that you hear right with actors that go

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through life and

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crazy crazy stories you hear about we

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basically

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you know we're a regular family that

361
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just happened to you know be in show

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business

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and my folks when they were working when

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i was growing up they just did a job

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and they came home when my mom was

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working on the partridge family it was

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the job she'd come home it's like okay

368
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let's sit down have dinner

369
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but meanwhile i was watching the show

370
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while she was at parker's family

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warren brothers ranch and she'd be

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walking in the door

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from coming back from the set and i'd

374
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just you know be finishing dinner

375
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just finishing watching the episode with

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my brothers

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but that's what that's how we grew up

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and um

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it couldn't have been any better and and

380
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what a wonderful time you know i'm 57

381
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i'm a little older than you and and i

382
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know

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what that period in the country was like

384
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it was magical um absolutely

385
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and absolutely and you guys are a big

386
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part of that magic there's just no doubt

387
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about it

388
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well you know i continue to to try to

389
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promote my mom's legacy with as i said

390
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with

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and talking about her

392
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you know i don't know she's 87 how many

393
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how many more years is really in her

394
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she's in good health thank god and

395
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and we have a great relationship we

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speak

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daily um but she's basically retired now

398
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i mean after 60 years she finally said i

399
00:19:01,029 --> 00:18:59,360
think that i've had enough

400
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yeah and uh when my step when my

401
00:19:05,909 --> 00:19:03,280
stepfather marty passed away

402
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my brother patrick and sean and i came

403
00:19:08,870 --> 00:19:07,360
in and kind of cleaned things up to make

404
00:19:10,549 --> 00:19:08,880
sure she was okay and she

405
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and you know she has somebody that kind

406
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of oversees things with her that

407
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that takes care of her assistant and but

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uh

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you know it's it's incredible i can i

410
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will go on and i'll just punch in her

411
00:19:23,590 --> 00:19:20,559
name

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photos that i've never seen before that

413
00:19:27,350 --> 00:19:24,720
pop up and i just

414
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like with fred astaire with gene kelly

415
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or with

416
00:19:33,190 --> 00:19:31,520
james cagney or whomever do you know

417
00:19:34,710 --> 00:19:33,200
have you ever thought about something as

418
00:19:38,070 --> 00:19:34,720
crazy as this

419
00:19:41,669 --> 00:19:38,080
how many moms in the united states

420
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went and got her hair cut right yeah

421
00:19:45,590 --> 00:19:43,600
or how many how many young men went and

422
00:19:47,510 --> 00:19:45,600
got the haircut that david had oh we all

423
00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:47,520
wanted david's hair or

424
00:19:51,430 --> 00:19:49,679
puka shells you know because david

425
00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:51,440
started the puka shell craze

426
00:19:56,950 --> 00:19:55,039
oh man but um well let's let's work out

427
00:19:58,150 --> 00:19:56,960
of them i could i could sit and talk to

428
00:19:59,590 --> 00:19:58,160
you forever i'd love to

429
00:20:02,310 --> 00:19:59,600
have you back on the show we'll do a

430
00:20:04,789 --> 00:20:02,320
full show one night that would be great

431
00:20:05,510 --> 00:20:04,799
now so this weekend this is a big

432
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weekend

433
00:20:08,789 --> 00:20:07,360
and now you were talking about set

434
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dressing and

435
00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:12,480
over at the la police lapd

436
00:20:16,310 --> 00:20:15,840
police museum where we will be you did a

437
00:20:19,750 --> 00:20:16,320
lot

438
00:20:21,029 --> 00:20:19,760
of the display work and and stuff there

439
00:20:22,789 --> 00:20:21,039
didn't you

440
00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:22,799
yeah so i was brought in as a board

441
00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:24,400
director uh

442
00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:28,080
about five years ago and um

443
00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:31,679
i had um always had an interest

444
00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:34,640
in working in the capacity of in a

445
00:20:39,430 --> 00:20:36,480
museum setting where i could put

446
00:20:41,110 --> 00:20:39,440
exhibits together or displays even for a

447
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while i wanted to dress like store

448
00:20:44,549 --> 00:20:41,919
windows for

449
00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:44,559
for shopping for like department stores

450
00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:46,240
so but this was kind of a great marriage

451
00:20:48,950 --> 00:20:47,120
for me because

452
00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:48,960
i love the history of the department i

453
00:20:53,909 --> 00:20:50,880
joined the department as a

454
00:20:57,430 --> 00:20:53,919
specialist reserve volunteer

455
00:20:59,190 --> 00:20:57,440
and so i work from that standpoint

456
00:21:01,430 --> 00:20:59,200
as a volunteer for the department i work

457
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:01,440
out of the north hollywood division

458
00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:04,240
and so then so when i got on the board i

459
00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:04,960
started to

460
00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:08,960
museum i thought what what else can we

461
00:21:13,430 --> 00:21:10,240
do here

462
00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:13,440
to really add to these exhibits

463
00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:15,440
and i grew up with kent mccord on a

464
00:21:18,950 --> 00:21:17,120
personal level my father was friends

465
00:21:20,870 --> 00:21:18,960
with kent mccord who played

466
00:21:22,310 --> 00:21:20,880
you know the officer on adam 12 officer

467
00:21:24,149 --> 00:21:22,320
reed

468
00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:24,159
and i went to kent and it was about to

469
00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:26,480
be the 50th anniversary of adam 12 and i

470
00:21:29,190 --> 00:21:27,600
said you know kent

471
00:21:31,669 --> 00:21:29,200
i'm now board director at the police

472
00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:31,679
museum what do you think about doing an

473
00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:32,400
exhibit

474
00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:36,640
honoring adam12 and he said you know

475
00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:39,039
i like it he says sure let's let's make

476
00:21:43,590 --> 00:21:40,559
it happen

477
00:21:43,990 --> 00:21:43,600
so uh i kind of you know put some people

478
00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:44,000
together

479
00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:46,640
that i knew that are honest on the job

480
00:21:50,470 --> 00:21:47,600
with lapd

481
00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:50,480
that were um that know the show and they

482
00:21:54,630 --> 00:21:51,280
helped me

483
00:21:56,630 --> 00:21:54,640
um to kind of lay out the the overall

484
00:21:59,830 --> 00:21:56,640
plan of how we were going to do this

485
00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:59,840
and kent uh loaned us all the things

486
00:22:03,190 --> 00:22:01,360
that he still had from the show

487
00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:03,200
including the uniform that he wore on it

488
00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:03,520
no

489
00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:06,640
so we put yeah we put that up

490
00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:08,080
and it's one of the it's one of the

491
00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:11,520
pretty it's a very cool exhibit

492
00:22:14,870 --> 00:22:13,919
and then we also uh were able to get the

493
00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:14,880
the weapon that

494
00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:17,120
uh martin milner's character uh used on

495
00:22:21,909 --> 00:22:18,640
the show

496
00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:21,919
malloy's character so we have that and

497
00:22:26,549 --> 00:22:22,720
uh

498
00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:26,559
including you know like photos and

499
00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:28,240
and lunch boxes and all the stuff that

500
00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:29,360
you could you know all the things that

501
00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:31,440
went along with the show

502
00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:33,440
and it really came out beautifully it

503
00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:35,600
just was beautifully put together and i

504
00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:37,280
have to say so myself it really came out

505
00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:38,720
nice so

506
00:22:41,909 --> 00:22:40,240
that was one of the things that i that i

507
00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:41,919
was somewhat instrumental in putting

508
00:22:45,750 --> 00:22:44,080
together and then i got downstairs

509
00:22:47,029 --> 00:22:45,760
into the archives rooms of the museum

510
00:22:48,390 --> 00:22:47,039
now the museum was it was a police

511
00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:48,400
station it was a working police station

512
00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:50,480
built in 1925

513
00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:52,320
and it was it was they retired it out

514
00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:53,679
1983.

515
00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:56,400
so it was and so it was basically empty

516
00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:57,919
for a number of years

517
00:23:01,110 --> 00:23:00,480
and the historical society took it over

518
00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:01,120
and

519
00:23:05,909 --> 00:23:04,320
we are a 501c3 so we're you know

520
00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:05,919
non-profit

521
00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:09,440
and we lease it from the city uh and

522
00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:11,600
uh the city has given us a great deal on

523
00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:12,640
it

524
00:23:16,149 --> 00:23:15,280
and um historical society came in before

525
00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:16,159
i got there

526
00:23:21,750 --> 00:23:19,840
and they were originally in a trailer so

527
00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:21,760
they were like a mobile unit that would

528
00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:24,000
go around the different places and show

529
00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:27,120
all the exhibits inside this mobile unit

530
00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:29,679
and so when the museum became available

531
00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:30,320
we went in

532
00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:33,600
and exhibit started going up there

533
00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:35,440
it was a perfect place because it was an

534
00:23:39,190 --> 00:23:36,799
old police station it's

535
00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:39,200
really the la one of the last of its

536
00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:39,919
style

537
00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:42,880
in the city all the other ones are gone

538
00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:43,360
and

539
00:23:49,909 --> 00:23:47,279
museum

540
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:49,919
now we have let me jump i'm going to

541
00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:51,039
jump in front of you

542
00:23:57,750 --> 00:23:53,120
can i you know can i interrupt ryan

543
00:24:02,830 --> 00:23:59,350
i'm going to make some phone calls yeah

544
00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:02,840
it's heresy man it's heresy it's heresy

545
00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:05,120
is what

546
00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:08,480
what happened that

547
00:24:12,789 --> 00:24:10,240
there was an event where you said wait a

548
00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:12,799
minute this place is haunted

549
00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:14,559
right there's something going on here

550
00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:16,080
what happened well

551
00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:19,440
it has first of all there have been

552
00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:21,760
there was a man that that hung himself

553
00:24:26,470 --> 00:24:24,480
in one of the cells downstairs

554
00:24:27,669 --> 00:24:26,480
there was i was downstairs and working

555
00:24:30,830 --> 00:24:27,679
in

556
00:24:33,029 --> 00:24:30,840
the uniform archive room there's there's

557
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:33,039
three archive rooms

558
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:36,240
downstairs that are not part of the muse

559
00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:38,400
in other words they're off to the public

560
00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:40,240
where we have things that we pull from

561
00:24:43,990 --> 00:24:42,480
for exhibits or we rotate things out we

562
00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:44,000
put them back

563
00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:46,720
i was working inside the uniform room

564
00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:47,440
one day

565
00:24:53,110 --> 00:24:51,279
by myself and you know listen i

566
00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:53,120
you know i do i believe in current i i

567
00:24:58,390 --> 00:24:55,120
listen i believe that

568
00:25:01,510 --> 00:24:58,400
that there's um

569
00:25:02,149 --> 00:25:01,520
that that there's a presence of souls

570
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:02,159
that can

571
00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:06,080
that

572
00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:09,120
uh there is paranormal activity

573
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:11,679
in different places and even items i

574
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:13,440
think objects can bring

575
00:25:16,630 --> 00:25:15,840
a certain kind of um an attachment

576
00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:16,640
presence yes

577
00:25:20,789 --> 00:25:18,799
an attachment right so i'm working

578
00:25:22,149 --> 00:25:20,799
downstairs one afternoon

579
00:25:24,070 --> 00:25:22,159
and i'm working in this room where

580
00:25:26,830 --> 00:25:24,080
there's all these old uniforms that go

581
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:30,870
1920s old hats gun belts

582
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:33,600
now this room that i'm in when it was a

583
00:25:38,390 --> 00:25:35,039
working police station

584
00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:38,400
was the um was the

585
00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:40,080
locker room for the police officers that

586
00:25:44,549 --> 00:25:42,480
worked there it was it was

587
00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:44,559
it was basically where they would you

588
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:45,760
know

589
00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:47,760
come in and put their uniform on and

590
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:49,679
start their shift

591
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:51,600
i'm down there and i'm going through

592
00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:53,039
some stuff

593
00:26:01,750 --> 00:25:58,080
and suddenly i hear sort of uh

594
00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:01,760
what are you doing no kind of

595
00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:08,549
very very serious about this oh i turned

596
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:10,400
around and i had i had spoken to a guy

597
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:11,600
that was had been there for quite a

598
00:26:14,149 --> 00:26:12,080
while

599
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:14,159
asking if the place if he'd ever had any

600
00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:15,840
experiences with

601
00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:18,799
with paranormal you know with dings and

602
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:19,360
or

603
00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:23,679
well i haven't personally but there have

604
00:26:28,149 --> 00:26:25,520
been some stories about that

605
00:26:29,669 --> 00:26:28,159
and and this was this was before the

606
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:29,679
incident that happened so when i

607
00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:32,400
i hear this sort of somebody behind me

608
00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:32,880
like a

609
00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:37,679
a whispering sound of what are you doing

610
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:40,799
i turn around i whip around and there's

611
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:42,640
no one there

612
00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:46,480
and i uh immediately

613
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:49,520
i stood i stood there i didn't

614
00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:52,240
i didn't i was just i had to think about

615
00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:52,799
i didn't

616
00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:55,760
sort of get my composure sure and

617
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:57,520
realized

618
00:27:01,750 --> 00:26:59,600
am i do i need to check my ears is one

619
00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:01,760
of those kind of you know

620
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:04,960
and i i i stopped and i walked up

621
00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:08,000
back upstairs and i sat down for a

622
00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:09,360
minute by myself and i had to think

623
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:10,799
about it

624
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:14,720
and i knew that there was a voice there

625
00:27:18,830 --> 00:27:16,480
i wasn't sure if it was what are you

626
00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:18,840
doing or whatever it was what are you

627
00:27:23,830 --> 00:27:20,320
something

628
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:23,840
and i went in and i told some of the

629
00:27:28,070 --> 00:27:26,000
uh misha walden who's been working there

630
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:28,080
a number of years he's a

631
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:30,240
wonderful woman that has been very

632
00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:31,840
involved in this

633
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:34,960
in this process i asked we talked about

634
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:35,279
it

635
00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:37,760
and but i didn't want to like start

636
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:39,279
telling people hey i'm hearing voices

637
00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:40,960
downstairs in the in the uniform room

638
00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:42,080
because then i'm you know

639
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:44,399
you can't do it no you can't do it yeah

640
00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:46,159
really where you're you may want to call

641
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:46,480
your

642
00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:51,360
a strange thing

643
00:27:55,669 --> 00:27:53,919
and um and interestingly enough i had

644
00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:55,679
never really had any experience like

645
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:57,039
that before

646
00:28:00,149 --> 00:27:59,600
although i do think my father is around

647
00:28:01,750 --> 00:28:00,159
i've had

648
00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:01,760
conversations on the phone about him and

649
00:28:05,110 --> 00:28:03,520
suddenly a letter comes off the wall

650
00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:05,120
that he wrote me

651
00:28:09,430 --> 00:28:08,960
so i believe that um everybody has a

652
00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:09,440
very

653
00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:12,399
uh you have to be willing to first of

654
00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:14,080
all believe in it

655
00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:16,000
and and be you know and i never want to

656
00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:17,760
discount anybody's experience with this

657
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:19,360
subject

658
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:21,360
especially after having it myself now

659
00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:22,720
right

660
00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:26,240
so it was a it was quite a a moment

661
00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:30,080
that i had to think about

662
00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:33,840
and when i went back down there

663
00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:37,360
that same day i just

664
00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:39,600
looked around and i started to think

665
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:40,960
well

666
00:28:45,909 --> 00:28:44,080
something's going on down here and it

667
00:28:48,149 --> 00:28:45,919
there must be

668
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:48,159
and then i had gone to a couple of the

669
00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:50,240
uh evenings where they had the uh

670
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:51,600
folks that came with all the equipment

671
00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:53,200
that set it all up with the orbs and all

672
00:28:56,630 --> 00:28:54,559
that kind of stuff and it was part of

673
00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:56,640
that

674
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:59,440
and then i i did there basically there

675
00:29:02,470 --> 00:28:59,840
was

676
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:02,480
evidence of activity happening there now

677
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:03,120
what do you

678
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:05,840
uh a couple of things and i've only got

679
00:29:09,669 --> 00:29:06,240
uh

680
00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:09,679
left ryan

681
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:12,159
um what do you do with that when you

682
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:13,679
listen to somebody else talk about a

683
00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:15,120
ghost experience now

684
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:17,760
i mean you always listened but now

685
00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:18,240
you're

686
00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:20,080
coming at it from a different place

687
00:29:26,070 --> 00:29:22,320
aren't you

688
00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:26,080
yeah i am um

689
00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:32,389
you research it and

690
00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:33,679
you talk to other people that had

691
00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:36,159
experiences and uh

692
00:29:39,909 --> 00:29:38,080
i don't have any fear about it i

693
00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:39,919
actually think it's a great thing i

694
00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:41,600
think it's uh

695
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:44,399
i think it's um i think that when we

696
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:45,600
when we

697
00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:50,000
die untimely in an untimely death

698
00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:52,399
there's sometimes a need to come back

699
00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:53,279
and

700
00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:56,799
maybe um connect in some way with

701
00:30:01,510 --> 00:29:58,480
whatever it was that you

702
00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:01,520
were that you know where you expired at

703
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:10,310
it i think it depends on um

704
00:30:16,389 --> 00:30:14,080
when you passed away the age you were

705
00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:16,399
but i think it's important to explore it

706
00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:17,600
and talk to people that have been

707
00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:18,880
through experiences and

708
00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:21,440
most people that i know on a personal

709
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:22,799
level

710
00:30:30,389 --> 00:30:27,120
um have had some kind of experience with

711
00:30:32,549 --> 00:30:30,399
um with people that

712
00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:32,559
have close people that have died and

713
00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:33,919
that maybe they had

714
00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:36,000
come into contact with them later now

715
00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:36,960
i've only done

716
00:30:42,470 --> 00:30:40,640
one uh other uh official investigation

717
00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:42,480
before and it happened to be with the

718
00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:43,840
dark zone

719
00:30:47,350 --> 00:30:46,080
and we did it down at the queen mary in

720
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:47,360
long beach

721
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:50,720
and right i love that it was crazy and i

722
00:30:54,149 --> 00:30:52,320
had two things that happened i'm not

723
00:30:55,029 --> 00:30:54,159
gonna get into the details but let me

724
00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:55,039
just say this

725
00:30:59,830 --> 00:30:58,880
for um my first time i walked away from

726
00:31:03,269 --> 00:30:59,840
that

727
00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:03,279
um itching to do this again

728
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:05,120
and when this opportunity came up at the

729
00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:07,360
los angeles police museum

730
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:09,519
i was all over it and i was like i

731
00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:10,640
cannot wait

732
00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:13,760
so i i i i'm so happy you did yeah i

733
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:16,159
look forward to seeing you this weekend

734
00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:19,120
and and thank you uh for taking the time

735
00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:20,480
to come on the show i look forward to

736
00:31:22,389 --> 00:31:21,919
having you on the show later it was

737
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:22,399
great

738
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:24,720
oh thank you so much any time i'd love

739
00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:25,600
to be on it

740
00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:28,240
you're you're great i mean first of all

741
00:31:33,669 --> 00:31:30,240
i'm a big i love the ufos

742
00:31:35,509 --> 00:31:33,679
i follow that and

743
00:31:36,950 --> 00:31:35,519
it's fascinating to me and it's

744
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:36,960
intriguing and

745
00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:39,120
the museum is a wonderful wonderful

746
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:40,240
place and and

747
00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:43,279
and i recommend people listening

748
00:31:46,549 --> 00:31:44,880
if they if they don't live in los

749
00:31:48,070 --> 00:31:46,559
angeles please when you come

750
00:31:50,389 --> 00:31:48,080
visit the museum los angeles police

751
00:31:52,389 --> 00:31:50,399
museum highland park thank you sir uh

752
00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:52,399
and we have a we have a great board our

753
00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:53,760
our chairman uh

754
00:31:59,830 --> 00:31:56,880
bob allen is is a wonderful man and

755
00:32:01,750 --> 00:31:59,840
he's a sergeant on lapd and has done a

756
00:32:03,190 --> 00:32:01,760
wonderful job with us and so

757
00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:03,200
we've got some great board members got

758
00:32:06,630 --> 00:32:04,559
some great people that work there and a

759
00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:06,640
new executive director

760
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:08,960
erica arias and she's just terrific it

761
00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:10,240
was a wonderful lady

762
00:32:14,470 --> 00:32:12,880
so i look forward to this weekend and

763
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:14,480
until then

764
00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:17,519
be safe and give my best to the family

765
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:20,000
i will thank you jimmy you be safe

766
00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:21,120
yourself take care

767
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:24,000
it was well we'll see in a few days all

768
00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:24,960
right buddy

769
00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:28,000
thank you so much ryan ryan cassidy

770
00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:31,919
and again it's the dark zone dot tv

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again that's get the tea dot com get the

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855
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headed do you wonder about the food

856
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supply

857
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chain could be disastrous

858
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and they usually occur with little

859
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warning that's why the smartest thing

860
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you can do today is to stockpile

861
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862
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863
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864
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865
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866
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867
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868
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in fact they're the only source my

869
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family trusts for

870
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right now save 20 off a full four week

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000 calories a day saving 20 helps too

874
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doesn't it especially now so go to

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prepare with jimmy.com and get ready

876
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:05,440
that's prepare with jimmy.com there's no

877
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:06,720
time to lose

878
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:15,030
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00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:18,790
fade to black is not

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kgra the planet

883
00:37:35,349 --> 00:37:30,720
hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

884
00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:35,359
you're listening to jimmychurchradio.com

885
00:37:54,850 --> 00:37:38,240
what's up i'm chris what up this is

886
00:37:58,230 --> 00:37:56,550
[Music]

887
00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:58,240
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

888
00:38:01,750 --> 00:37:59,680
jimmy church

889
00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:01,760
tonight we welcome very special guest

890
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:04,160
eric mitchell is here for the first time

891
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:05,760
we'll get to that in a second tomorrow

892
00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:06,560
night

893
00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:09,119
it's the return of terry lovelace his

894
00:38:13,349 --> 00:38:10,480
new book is out

895
00:38:14,310 --> 00:38:13,359
devil's den the reckoning and thursday

896
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:14,320
night is another

897
00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:17,280
fader night with open lines all night

898
00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:18,000
long tonight

899
00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:20,320
eric mitchell we're going to be talking

900
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:22,079
about the current state of ufology we're

901
00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:23,839
going to talk about disclosure his life

902
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:24,960
experiences

903
00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:28,320
and contact all of that and much more

904
00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:30,800
eric was a struggling single father with

905
00:38:35,630 --> 00:38:32,960
no belief in the ufo subject until an

906
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:35,640
object showed up in his yard back in

907
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:36,960
2013

908
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:38,800
he immediately acquired a seasoned

909
00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:40,640
investigator and began helping others

910
00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:43,839
through the world view process it's a

911
00:38:46,310 --> 00:38:44,960
great story

912
00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:46,320
now he has become one of the most

913
00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:48,480
important voices in our community

914
00:38:52,069 --> 00:38:50,480
and today he's working on a documentary

915
00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:52,079
to share his information

916
00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:53,920
maybe i'll get him to talk a little bit

917
00:38:57,670 --> 00:38:55,200
about that tonight

918
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:57,680
and you can connect directly up to eric

919
00:39:00,870 --> 00:38:58,400
over on

920
00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:00,880
facebook and the links to his facebook

921
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:03,520
page are over at jimmychurchradio.com

922
00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:04,800
and i would like to welcome the first

923
00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:06,960
time fade to black eric mitchell

924
00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:10,000
eric how you doing man

925
00:39:14,069 --> 00:39:11,920
jimmy thanks for having me on man i want

926
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:14,079
to thank you

927
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:17,040
you know um i'm really looking forward

928
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:18,880
to the conversation tonight eric but

929
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:20,800
before we get started

930
00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:23,920
you get the first time guest disclaimer

931
00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:28,079
yeah that's right are you ready

932
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:30,320
am ready okay the first time guest

933
00:39:33,910 --> 00:39:31,920
disclaimer is eric

934
00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:33,920
it's just you and i sitting on my couch

935
00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:36,000
having a conversation as friends

936
00:39:40,069 --> 00:39:38,160
and where that conversation starts it

937
00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:40,079
starts where it ends it ends

938
00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:41,760
but we're gonna end his friends there

939
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:44,400
you go see i got you all tensed up for a

940
00:39:51,670 --> 00:39:50,230
almost if i wasn't so tired from you

941
00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:51,680
know filming all week and

942
00:39:54,790 --> 00:39:54,320
and and driving 10 hours across country

943
00:39:56,230 --> 00:39:54,800
uh

944
00:39:57,910 --> 00:39:56,240
yeah yeah i would have been tensed out

945
00:39:58,710 --> 00:39:57,920
but i could probably blink and take a

946
00:40:01,750 --> 00:39:58,720
nap right now

947
00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:01,760
yeah i was uh following

948
00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:04,160
uh your your little behind-the-scenes

949
00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:05,359
production stuff

950
00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:08,160
and and and the photographs and what was

951
00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:09,920
interesting you and i were talking uh

952
00:40:12,870 --> 00:40:10,400
over the

953
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:12,880
uh last week you're there filming and

954
00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:14,160
you're like dude i'm gonna do the show

955
00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:16,640
man i gotta i gotta drive back home but

956
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:20,400
i where and when and and i know how busy

957
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:22,000
you have been but uh thank you

958
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:25,359
uh tonight uh for coming on with us and

959
00:40:32,470 --> 00:40:28,720
uh i'm not even sure eric where

960
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:32,480
to start and i mean the obvious place is

961
00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:34,400
to go back to 2013

962
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:36,880
and so let's do that in a second and

963
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:38,480
then we'll move forward but i want to

964
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:40,000
back up before that

965
00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:43,200
because when you uh make a statement

966
00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:46,640
um you know that uh no belief in the

967
00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:47,760
subject

968
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:50,960
uh ufos were not a part of your life

969
00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:53,040
that's a pretty serious statement

970
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:54,000
nothing at all

971
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:56,000
uh growing up you didn't have crazy

972
00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:57,200
parents or

973
00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:01,119
a strange uncle that was abducted

974
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:04,160
no no uh well i you know i only really

975
00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:04,640
uh

976
00:41:08,710 --> 00:41:06,480
you know knew my parents growing up i

977
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:08,720
didn't know the rest of my family so uh

978
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:10,640
thank god i didn't have any uh crazy

979
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:12,480
uncles but my father he was really

980
00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:13,200
skeptical

981
00:41:17,829 --> 00:41:16,079
about uh those kinds of things and you

982
00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:17,839
know he always figured out a way to

983
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:19,040
explain things away

984
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:21,040
you know if something strange was going

985
00:41:23,910 --> 00:41:22,240
on so

986
00:41:25,349 --> 00:41:23,920
i kind of you know how that neural

987
00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:25,359
network works you know you watch your

988
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:26,960
father and you become your father

989
00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:28,640
eventually and uh

990
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:31,040
so uh yeah i mean i just kind of

991
00:41:34,150 --> 00:41:32,640
followed the status quo you know going

992
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:34,160
to school and and uh

993
00:41:37,589 --> 00:41:36,640
somehow uh we're all taught

994
00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:37,599
inadvertently

995
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:39,599
uh to think this subject's crazy and if

996
00:41:42,550 --> 00:41:40,720
a ufo person

997
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,560
comes up to you and starts talking just

998
00:41:47,589 --> 00:41:44,240
you know walk away

999
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:47,599
now what's it like to

1000
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:49,680
pull on the thread and undo a belief

1001
00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:51,680
system that you were raised in

1002
00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:54,480
you know the the the you know the famous

1003
00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:55,200
quotes

1004
00:41:59,109 --> 00:41:58,319
you know throughout history that once

1005
00:42:01,349 --> 00:41:59,119
somebody

1006
00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:01,359
is raised a certain way that's it i mean

1007
00:42:06,069 --> 00:42:03,119
they're they're set

1008
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:06,079
uh for life you're never going to change

1009
00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:07,680
somebody's mind you're not going to

1010
00:42:11,109 --> 00:42:08,400
argue

1011
00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:11,119
your way into somebody changing who they

1012
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:11,839
are

1013
00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:13,760
but if you went through that what was

1014
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:16,079
that like

1015
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:18,240
you know jimmy i could write an entire

1016
00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:19,520
book on

1017
00:42:23,109 --> 00:42:21,839
on just that process alone you know your

1018
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:23,119
entire world view is

1019
00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:25,680
completely rip the shreds um you know

1020
00:42:30,309 --> 00:42:28,720
within a 24 hour period

1021
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:30,319
you know the best way to do this the

1022
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:31,920
short way is

1023
00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:34,480
buy a 380 load it wait for the kids to

1024
00:42:38,069 --> 00:42:36,160
go to bed and use it on yourself

1025
00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:38,079
um you know and that's that's about to

1026
00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:39,200
the point where i got

1027
00:42:42,790 --> 00:42:40,960
uh because i wanted to believe that i

1028
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:42,800
was uh going insane i couldn't accept

1029
00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:45,280
the fact that this was actually going on

1030
00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:46,880
on top of the fact i had pictures and

1031
00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:48,480
videos and witnesses all over the

1032
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:49,599
neighborhood

1033
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:51,920
uh that knew that they absolutely knew

1034
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:52,880
this was going on

1035
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:54,480
you know it's out in the open it's not

1036
00:42:58,150 --> 00:42:56,319
something out just outside my bed you

1037
00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:58,160
know in my bedroom um

1038
00:43:02,390 --> 00:43:00,400
helicopters were picking it up f18s were

1039
00:43:03,109 --> 00:43:02,400
flying chasing these things away so it

1040
00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:03,119
was

1041
00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:06,880
upfront and personal

1042
00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:09,359
with everyone involved so i couldn't

1043
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:10,000
handle it

1044
00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:13,520
thought i was a tough person yeah

1045
00:43:16,710 --> 00:43:14,960
and and i'm going to jump in here

1046
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:16,720
because we're going to get into that

1047
00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:18,160
part of your experience

1048
00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:21,920
in detail and it's an incredible journey

1049
00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:25,200
but the other part is this i know what

1050
00:43:27,990 --> 00:43:26,160
it's like

1051
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:28,000
i've got two daughters i know what it's

1052
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:29,200
like at that moment

1053
00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:32,160
when they find out that there's no santa

1054
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:33,040
claus

1055
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:35,280
right and and their world just comes

1056
00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:36,319
undone

1057
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:39,359
right it's just and and

1058
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:42,480
that's probably the best way to to put

1059
00:43:46,309 --> 00:43:43,920
this right you

1060
00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:46,319
you you have a way of life and then all

1061
00:43:51,829 --> 00:43:47,440
of a sudden

1062
00:43:56,230 --> 00:43:53,910
right right you know it's it's uh kind

1063
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:56,240
of like the santa lost thing i'd say

1064
00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:56,800
times

1065
00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:00,400
10 million right you know um your entire

1066
00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:04,000
uh you know world view is just shredded

1067
00:44:07,030 --> 00:44:05,440
uh if you don't put it back together

1068
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:07,040
responsibly uh

1069
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:09,599
you end up in a pretty bad situation for

1070
00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:11,280
yourself

1071
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:15,520
the uh the evening of

1072
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:20,480
if we go back to 2013 was there anything

1073
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:23,760
before that that was an indication of

1074
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:24,319
something

1075
00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:27,760
was about to uh occur

1076
00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:30,000
you know not a lot but i do have a

1077
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:30,800
memory

1078
00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:33,680
at nine years old uh where i had some

1079
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:34,800
missing time

1080
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:38,400
and uh it seemed if it it just blinked

1081
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:40,400
and it was literally uh from 8 30 at

1082
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:42,880
night to nine o'clock in the morning

1083
00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:45,119
uh but other than that and you know it

1084
00:44:50,230 --> 00:44:47,280
bothered me so much that i remember

1085
00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:50,240
uh that very vividly but uh other than

1086
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:51,839
that i really don't think there was a

1087
00:44:54,309 --> 00:44:52,640
team

1088
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:54,319
you know too many things you know odd

1089
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:55,920
out there for me

1090
00:45:02,630 --> 00:44:59,119
including the day of the first day of

1091
00:45:07,349 --> 00:45:05,589
yeah that i i really wanted to believe

1092
00:45:10,870 --> 00:45:07,359
that was some sort of um

1093
00:45:12,230 --> 00:45:10,880
optical illusion um yeah

1094
00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:12,240
you know what your brain goes through

1095
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:13,680
you try to explain away what you're

1096
00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:15,760
looking at and jimmy for me

1097
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:18,800
uh ufo was like a shiny silvery disc in

1098
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:20,640
a 1950s movie

1099
00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:23,680
uh not a 40 foot in diameter orange

1100
00:45:28,550 --> 00:45:26,160
you know sphere of you know rippling

1101
00:45:30,069 --> 00:45:28,560
light you know i wouldn't expect that so

1102
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:30,079
i definitely wanted to believe i was

1103
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:32,880
looking at like a um optical illusion

1104
00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:35,680
or or something of this the sort it

1105
00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:36,960
really did bother me

1106
00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:40,240
what what happened like

1107
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:42,160
i woke up it was around four o'clock in

1108
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:45,200
the morning and uh i'm standing outside

1109
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:47,680
and my my left shoulder is facing my

1110
00:45:50,710 --> 00:45:48,319
front door

1111
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:50,720
which was closed and my left shoulder

1112
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:51,440
was

1113
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:55,119
of the street which is a very short dead

1114
00:45:59,030 --> 00:45:56,319
end street

1115
00:46:00,150 --> 00:45:59,040
and i'm kind of squeezing my eyebrows

1116
00:46:02,309 --> 00:46:00,160
together you know that

1117
00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:02,319
real tight squeeze like what the heck is

1118
00:46:07,349 --> 00:46:04,319
going on why am i outside

1119
00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:07,359
uh and i'm looking over my shoulder at

1120
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:09,119
this thing it's just

1121
00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:11,200
it's like a miniature sun just rippling

1122
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:13,680
like water you know and

1123
00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:15,760
it's just off the ground i had no idea

1124
00:46:19,589 --> 00:46:17,680
what it was

1125
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:19,599
one of my first thoughts was to approach

1126
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:20,880
it to kind of

1127
00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:22,640
get rid of you know the illusion that

1128
00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:24,079
i'm looking at and go ha ha

1129
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:25,920
you know this is funny that my brain you

1130
00:46:29,829 --> 00:46:28,400
know played a little trick on me um but

1131
00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:29,839
my second thought was

1132
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:32,240
heck no don't get near that thing so i

1133
00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:33,760
kind of went inside after about 20

1134
00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:35,680
minutes left the door open

1135
00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:38,160
and i kept leaning over you know from

1136
00:46:41,589 --> 00:46:39,200
where my couch was

1137
00:46:43,589 --> 00:46:41,599
to uh to see if it was still there i

1138
00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:43,599
decided around 6 30 when the sun did

1139
00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:45,359
come up that i was going to go outside

1140
00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:47,599
find the optical illusion and go aha but

1141
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:50,480
by then it was already gone

1142
00:46:56,309 --> 00:46:53,920
uh you almost pulled

1143
00:46:59,109 --> 00:46:56,319
like a travis walton right you're gonna

1144
00:47:01,510 --> 00:46:59,119
go up and touch it

1145
00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:01,520
uh travis and i have a lot in common

1146
00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:03,280
we've spent about uh

1147
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:04,720
i don't know six to eight months

1148
00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:06,400
roommating together up in uh

1149
00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:10,640
up in maine and uh yeah

1150
00:47:15,829 --> 00:47:14,240
when uh what advice and we all love

1151
00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:15,839
travis he's great

1152
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:18,400
what advice did he did he say to you

1153
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:19,440
good thing

1154
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:22,480
that you didn't walk up

1155
00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:25,839
of course he did uh i never saw the uh

1156
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:27,680
his the movie they made about him you

1157
00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:29,280
know firing the sky

1158
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:31,599
until uh he popped it in at the house up

1159
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:32,319
in maine

1160
00:47:36,549 --> 00:47:34,960
and uh he kind of you know showed me

1161
00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:36,559
what actually happened and what didn't

1162
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:37,119
you know how

1163
00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:38,880
you know movie companies want to really

1164
00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:40,720
uh up things up a bit

1165
00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:44,079
and uh so i got the uh uh first class

1166
00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:46,000
ticket into the uh to the movie but

1167
00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:47,920
yeah wait a minute wait a minute wait a

1168
00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:49,839
minute pump the brakes here

1169
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:53,280
hold on a minute you got to watch fire

1170
00:47:56,950 --> 00:47:54,480
in the sky

1171
00:47:57,990 --> 00:47:56,960
with travis walton and got there and got

1172
00:48:01,670 --> 00:47:58,000
the director's cut

1173
00:48:02,470 --> 00:48:01,680
reading yeah we live together well no i

1174
00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:02,480
understand

1175
00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:06,000
but to pop in

1176
00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:07,680
to pop and fire in the sky that just

1177
00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:12,950
yeah yeah yeah it was really neat to uh

1178
00:48:16,790 --> 00:48:15,280
you know uh see from his perspective and

1179
00:48:19,270 --> 00:48:16,800
you know all these years he still gets

1180
00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:19,280
angry yes at himself

1181
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:21,280
uh and you know that's one reason why i

1182
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:22,960
didn't go with uh major companies

1183
00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:24,960
netflix and stuff like that

1184
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:26,960
is that they want to change everything

1185
00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:29,520
and i'm not about making the money or

1186
00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:31,280
being popular i just want

1187
00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:34,400
the facts out so um you know that's why

1188
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:36,240
i'm working with the uh the people i am

1189
00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:37,680
on this documentary

1190
00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:39,520
uh they're die hard about facts and

1191
00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:41,200
getting the truth out and so am i so

1192
00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:43,200
it's gonna be a powerful

1193
00:48:47,990 --> 00:48:46,240
uh piece of information so going back to

1194
00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:48,000
that day so 6 30

1195
00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:51,359
uh the the

1196
00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:55,280
the sphere is is gone from your yard

1197
00:49:04,230 --> 00:48:58,640
how large of a community are you

1198
00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:05,670
not that i know of i don't know if

1199
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:08,079
anyone else saw it on that occasion

1200
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:10,079
um like i said it was around four

1201
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:11,760
o'clock in the morning

1202
00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:14,480
there are 20 one-story apartments on one

1203
00:49:17,510 --> 00:49:15,440
side of the street

1204
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:17,520
and three trailers on the other so

1205
00:49:23,109 --> 00:49:19,680
you've got 23 residences

1206
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:23,119
in a very very short street so

1207
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:24,880
you can imagine you know when these

1208
00:49:29,589 --> 00:49:26,400
things would uh frequent

1209
00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:29,599
at a low altitude or just in the trees

1210
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:31,599
or just above the concrete

1211
00:49:34,630 --> 00:49:34,160
it caused quite a bit of trouble yeah

1212
00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:34,640
sure

1213
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:42,150
uh the the third sighting was

1214
00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:45,280
actually the most terrible part um

1215
00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:48,319
i had been working on my car

1216
00:49:52,549 --> 00:49:50,160
and uh turns out the water pump was out

1217
00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:52,559
my buddy dan from across the street he

1218
00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:53,760
was helping me with it he was at

1219
00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:55,760
wright-patterson air force base for uh

1220
00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:57,040
two terms

1221
00:50:00,790 --> 00:49:59,599
and um he noticed that i was really

1222
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:00,800
shaken up i mean

1223
00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:03,760
you know here's um you know one sighting

1224
00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:05,599
i had at four o'clock in the morning

1225
00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:07,760
uh 9 30 that night this thing showed up

1226
00:50:11,910 --> 00:50:09,839
in the same spot blinked on and off

1227
00:50:13,750 --> 00:50:11,920
on and off in a slow ominous circle all

1228
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:13,760
the way around me until it ended up

1229
00:50:18,069 --> 00:50:16,240
above my apartment one story apartment

1230
00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:18,079
which was very close to my face

1231
00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:21,599
i was frozen i couldn't run um

1232
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:22,960
you know it's just you know when you

1233
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:24,800
scare a goat it just stiffens up i mean

1234
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:26,480
that's what happened to my body

1235
00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:29,200
um it was an external source it was just

1236
00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:29,520
me

1237
00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:31,440
going oh my god what the hell is this

1238
00:50:35,910 --> 00:50:33,280
you know i wanted to explain it away now

1239
00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:35,920
it's back it's showing intelligence

1240
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:37,839
and it flashed twice and shot away as

1241
00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:39,200
fast as a bullet

1242
00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:42,400
i expected you know a 738 mile an hour

1243
00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:43,040
song

1244
00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:46,559
sonic boom i expected uh recoil from

1245
00:50:50,710 --> 00:50:49,359
air displacement to really knock me over

1246
00:50:54,069 --> 00:50:50,720
none of that happened which

1247
00:50:56,069 --> 00:50:54,079
um you know really added to my my fear

1248
00:50:57,910 --> 00:50:56,079
and curiosity at the same time i

1249
00:50:59,910 --> 00:50:57,920
i literally duck walked into the house

1250
00:51:01,510 --> 00:50:59,920
because my knees wouldn't work and spent

1251
00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:01,520
most of the night on google

1252
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:03,839
looking up military uh projects because

1253
00:51:08,309 --> 00:51:05,839
hopefully that's what it was i mean

1254
00:51:10,069 --> 00:51:08,319
there could be no in my mind no that no

1255
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:10,079
other explanation so that's what i

1256
00:51:13,990 --> 00:51:11,200
thought i was witnessing

1257
00:51:15,829 --> 00:51:14,000
oh where all right where's the location

1258
00:51:17,829 --> 00:51:15,839
where were you

1259
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:17,839
it is a milk lane in hot springs

1260
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:19,920
arkansas hot springs arkansas

1261
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:22,720
got you okay so now you're working on

1262
00:51:26,069 --> 00:51:24,240
your you're working on your water pump

1263
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:26,079
with dan from across the street

1264
00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:29,599
he notices something strange about you

1265
00:51:33,109 --> 00:51:31,440
yeah yeah we knew each other and you

1266
00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:33,119
know at the time i'm raising

1267
00:51:36,150 --> 00:51:35,520
kids i'd have no family um struggling

1268
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:36,160
like crazy

1269
00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:38,640
after a divorce to uh make ends meet and

1270
00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:40,240
here goes a water pump like i needed

1271
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:40,640
that

1272
00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:43,440
you know right dan started talking about

1273
00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:43,839
his

1274
00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:46,400
wife cooking dinner and uh he went in

1275
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:47,680
the house and came out with a beer and

1276
00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:49,040
handed it to me he said there you go

1277
00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:51,280
buddy you know that'll calm your nerves

1278
00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:53,119
things will get better and and you know

1279
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:55,119
threw some bible verses at me

1280
00:51:59,349 --> 00:51:56,960
gave him a big man hug and he went to go

1281
00:52:01,109 --> 00:51:59,359
inside well i reached back over the hood

1282
00:52:01,430 --> 00:52:01,119
of my car to grab that beer where i put

1283
00:52:03,190 --> 00:52:01,440
it

1284
00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:03,200
and i was standing on my own shoelace so

1285
00:52:07,510 --> 00:52:05,760
i kind of untied my shoe

1286
00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:07,520
at that time in my mood i was like oh

1287
00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:09,520
great what next you know so i reach down

1288
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:11,760
to tie my shoe and i feel this

1289
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:15,119
like a rumbling sensation and a tingle

1290
00:52:18,309 --> 00:52:16,720
on the top of my head

1291
00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:18,319
and at first i thought maybe i had the

1292
00:52:21,910 --> 00:52:20,480
chills or something like that

1293
00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:21,920
and the next thing you know it feels

1294
00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:23,920
like someone just hit the volume and

1295
00:52:26,870 --> 00:52:25,040
turned it up all the way

1296
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:26,880
i mean this just pushed me straight to

1297
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:28,079
the ground

1298
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:31,599
um it's like being in front of a

1299
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:33,599
uh rock and roll speaker you know how it

1300
00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:35,040
vibrates your whole body

1301
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:38,160
i do if you can imagine that by a

1302
00:52:40,870 --> 00:52:38,640
million

1303
00:52:42,150 --> 00:52:40,880
to the point where it would incapacitate

1304
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:42,160
you um

1305
00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:45,280
mainly your head mainly your brain um

1306
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:46,800
i thought the only thought i could push

1307
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:48,640
through my brain was oh my god i'm being

1308
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:49,200
killed

1309
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:52,240
i mean i it just impacted me so hard

1310
00:52:57,030 --> 00:52:55,040
i felt my body rocking back and forth as

1311
00:53:00,069 --> 00:52:57,040
if i was some sort of magnet you know

1312
00:53:02,630 --> 00:53:00,079
um it was an odd sensation i

1313
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:02,640
knew i was throwing up and the only

1314
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:04,319
reason i knew that is because my throat

1315
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:06,880
was open for a long period of time

1316
00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:09,119
while in this distraction my nose was

1317
00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:11,119
bleeding my left ear was bleeding

1318
00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:14,000
and i pushed myself off the ground as if

1319
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:16,000
going against magnetics and i looked up

1320
00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:18,160
and this damn thing was just above me

1321
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:20,960
and it flashed twice and took off the

1322
00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:21,599
opposite

1323
00:53:25,990 --> 00:53:24,079
it went the night before now jimmy i

1324
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:26,000
laid there for about 20 minutes

1325
00:53:29,270 --> 00:53:28,480
and at that moment i was scared of this

1326
00:53:30,790 --> 00:53:29,280
guy

1327
00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:30,800
i just needed to make it to my front

1328
00:53:34,069 --> 00:53:32,319
door but

1329
00:53:35,910 --> 00:53:34,079
i was afraid to move like something

1330
00:53:36,790 --> 00:53:35,920
would see me and you know i know that

1331
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:36,800
sounds odd but

1332
00:53:40,710 --> 00:53:39,359
you know look what just happened so i

1333
00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:40,720
got inside finally

1334
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:42,400
and i got to that cold floor in the

1335
00:53:47,109 --> 00:53:44,720
bathroom because i was so overheated

1336
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:47,119
and uh tried to make it to the toilet to

1337
00:53:51,990 --> 00:53:49,280
vomit some more and i passed out

1338
00:53:53,349 --> 00:53:52,000
i woke up about 5 30 the next morning i

1339
00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:53,359
was covered in blood

1340
00:53:58,309 --> 00:53:56,559
uh vomit i apologize not to be too gross

1341
00:54:00,150 --> 00:53:58,319
climbed into the shower with all my

1342
00:54:01,750 --> 00:54:00,160
clothes on

1343
00:54:03,349 --> 00:54:01,760
and just turned the water on you know i

1344
00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:03,359
needed to cool off

1345
00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:05,280
um and i stayed there until the uh the

1346
00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:07,280
water ran out got out put on some

1347
00:54:11,190 --> 00:54:08,640
clothes and i went to the fridge i was

1348
00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:11,200
so thirsty and i grabbed the uh

1349
00:54:15,270 --> 00:54:13,839
cranberry juice and ran the pot of

1350
00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:15,280
coffee and as soon as that cranberry

1351
00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:16,559
juice hit my lips

1352
00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:18,400
i ruined that fresh pair of clothes

1353
00:54:21,349 --> 00:54:20,000
because i was just pouring it you know

1354
00:54:24,309 --> 00:54:21,359
into my face

1355
00:54:25,270 --> 00:54:24,319
i had to get as much as possible so

1356
00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:25,280
obviously i was

1357
00:54:28,549 --> 00:54:28,000
pretty dehydrated my vision was uh

1358
00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:28,559
blurry

1359
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:30,240
it stayed that way i had to get reading

1360
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:32,640
glasses to uh see far away and up close

1361
00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:34,319
and i think we can explain the science

1362
00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:36,640
of all this later on

1363
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:39,119
my skin was burned on my shoulders and

1364
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:39,760
face

1365
00:54:46,390 --> 00:54:42,880
a little bit on my hands as well and uh

1366
00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:46,400
i was a mess but um that morning i

1367
00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:47,920
believed i had a brain tumor i was

1368
00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:49,200
trying to convince myself

1369
00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:51,359
because my whole world i believe that

1370
00:54:54,789 --> 00:54:52,480
was the night that

1371
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:54,799
my whole world flipped upside down now

1372
00:54:59,670 --> 00:54:56,160
were you thinking

1373
00:55:03,670 --> 00:54:59,680
um eric and i don't want to be cavalier

1374
00:55:05,109 --> 00:55:03,680
okay but are you thinking ufo are you

1375
00:55:07,990 --> 00:55:05,119
thinking et

1376
00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:08,000
or are are you going in the opposite

1377
00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:08,720
direction

1378
00:55:12,710 --> 00:55:10,640
in that you have just lost your friggin

1379
00:55:14,309 --> 00:55:12,720
mind

1380
00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:14,319
i wanted to i wanted to be the one that

1381
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:16,000
lost his mind right you know i'm a

1382
00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:18,000
student

1383
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:21,280
i figure maybe um you know six months of

1384
00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:23,760
good intensive therapy uh proper

1385
00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:25,680
medications and things of that nature

1386
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:26,880
and i'd be fine

1387
00:55:30,309 --> 00:55:28,559
but the physical effects were there and

1388
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:30,319
i was trying to push them away too

1389
00:55:34,710 --> 00:55:31,839
i was trying to push away the pictures

1390
00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:34,720
the videos um and all that

1391
00:55:39,750 --> 00:55:38,160
so uh in retrospect i mean i guess you

1392
00:55:40,710 --> 00:55:39,760
can say that's the most delusional i've

1393
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:40,720
ever been in my life

1394
00:55:45,030 --> 00:55:42,880
i could not accept what was going on and

1395
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:45,040
i was trying to uh

1396
00:55:49,349 --> 00:55:46,640
you know blame myself for it you know

1397
00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:49,359
blame some sort of uh mental problem

1398
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and of course being part of the uh

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investigation for the past eight years

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we

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pretty much conclude that uh i'm not

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insane yeah i know

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00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:59,040
you are your feet are firmly on the

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00:56:02,710 --> 00:56:00,240
ground my friend

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00:56:04,789 --> 00:56:02,720
uh did you did you go to uh to see the

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00:56:06,470 --> 00:56:04,799
doctor

1407
00:56:10,710 --> 00:56:06,480
uh that was a lot of thought i had that

1408
00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:12,710
thinking about going to a doctor and

1409
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:14,480
explaining that to him

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um while having uh being a single dad

1411
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:18,559
and and

1412
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:20,480
you know watching my children be carted

1413
00:56:24,950 --> 00:56:22,160
off by cps wasn't a

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00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:24,960
very appealing idea even though i knew

1415
00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:25,440
um

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00:56:33,829 --> 00:56:30,640
but no i didn't didn't go to the doctor

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00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:33,839
um answers you know with the burning

1418
00:56:37,190 --> 00:56:35,680
in things i was just wondering what the

1419
00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:37,200
what uh

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00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:40,240
the medical side of things uh were

1421
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:43,119
suspecting how that happened uh that's a

1422
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:44,640
tough thing to explain away what do you

1423
00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:46,319
tell the doctor well this orange thing

1424
00:56:51,109 --> 00:56:46,720
you know

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00:56:53,589 --> 00:56:51,119
and it came down out of the sky

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00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:53,599
i i don't think i'd be able to uh have

1427
00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:55,760
even said it back then but yeah i mean

1428
00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:56,559
you're uh

1429
00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:58,079
you're scratching at the right door

1430
00:57:01,990 --> 00:57:00,000
though you're wanting to know the uh

1431
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:02,000
the nuts and bolts but i gotta say jimmy

1432
00:57:05,470 --> 00:57:03,440
that a lot of the bolts are actually

1433
00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:05,480
freaking nuts

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00:57:11,190 --> 00:57:08,160
[Laughter]

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the reason why i needed

1436
00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:13,680
reading glasses to see far up or far

1437
00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:14,960
away and up close

1438
00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:17,200
is due to the fact that i was exposed to

1439
00:57:21,910 --> 00:57:20,079
a very particular electromagnetic field

1440
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:21,920
which pushes and pulls on the vision at

1441
00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:23,680
the same time causing

1442
00:57:29,670 --> 00:57:27,040
um you know the same on distance

1443
00:57:31,510 --> 00:57:29,680
as it does up close a lot of scientists

1444
00:57:33,109 --> 00:57:31,520
that work with high power magnets

1445
00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:33,119
accidentally do this to themselves and

1446
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:34,960
they have to do the same thing they

1447
00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:36,480
can't have a prescription they have to

1448
00:57:40,069 --> 00:57:37,839
have reading glasses

1449
00:57:41,270 --> 00:57:40,079
uh to actually see you know uh

1450
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:41,280
proficiently

1451
00:57:44,789 --> 00:57:43,760
um the reason why i felt like a magnet

1452
00:57:47,190 --> 00:57:44,799
now this was

1453
00:57:48,870 --> 00:57:47,200
really uh something i never thought

1454
00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:48,880
would be explained to me

1455
00:57:54,069 --> 00:57:51,920
but did you know that the um

1456
00:57:55,349 --> 00:57:54,079
your the iron in your blood is

1457
00:57:58,349 --> 00:57:55,359
negatively charged

1458
00:58:00,390 --> 00:57:58,359
so when you get around a very powerful

1459
00:58:02,309 --> 00:58:00,400
electromagnetic magnet

1460
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:02,319
it pushes you away it doesn't suck you

1461
00:58:06,309 --> 00:58:03,760
closer um

1462
00:58:07,589 --> 00:58:06,319
now the very few that are positive get

1463
00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:07,599
drawn to the surface

1464
00:58:14,470 --> 00:58:11,200
and it appears as a burn on your skin

1465
00:58:17,670 --> 00:58:14,480
so that would definitely explain that

1466
00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:17,680
now me going from a low iq

1467
00:58:20,789 --> 00:58:19,839
to a high iq in a short period of time

1468
00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:20,799
that's going to be

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00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:24,480
a long show jimmy very long show

1470
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:27,520
can i sign up for it yeah

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00:58:31,030 --> 00:58:30,240
yeah you want to start now let's do it i

1472
00:58:35,030 --> 00:58:31,040
need all the help

1473
00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:35,040
and you know this is

1474
00:58:40,150 --> 00:58:37,680
this is um one of the point and we're

1475
00:58:43,270 --> 00:58:40,160
going to continue with what was going on

1476
00:58:47,270 --> 00:58:43,280
in your little community and ultimately

1477
00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:47,280
uh uh what happened at the end of that

1478
00:58:52,950 --> 00:58:51,280
but as you started to meld into and

1479
00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:52,960
investigate and research

1480
00:58:59,190 --> 00:58:56,720
this um what did you what was your first

1481
00:59:01,109 --> 00:58:59,200
take on on the ufo community and seeking

1482
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:01,119
help

1483
00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:05,440
uh should i yeah go ahead

1484
00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:08,480
i don't want to sound rude but you

1485
00:59:12,309 --> 00:59:10,319
if if this happens to you and you reach

1486
00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:12,319
out to a ufologist

1487
00:59:15,829 --> 00:59:14,160
most of the time not all the time but

1488
00:59:17,910 --> 00:59:15,839
most of the time if

1489
00:59:19,589 --> 00:59:17,920
they can't write a book about you or you

1490
00:59:20,950 --> 00:59:19,599
know get some kind of

1491
00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:20,960
something out of it i mean there's no

1492
00:59:25,030 --> 00:59:23,680
real compassion there i mean ufology

1493
00:59:27,190 --> 00:59:25,040
and folks need to know this it's a

1494
00:59:29,349 --> 00:59:27,200
business i mean it's a business of

1495
00:59:30,309 --> 00:59:29,359
selling books and doing things of that

1496
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:30,319
nature so

1497
00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:31,680
there may not be a whole lot of

1498
00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:33,760
compassion involved but on the other

1499
00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:35,280
hand there's some wonderful people in

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00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:37,520
ufology i contacted peter robbins we

1501
00:59:41,750 --> 00:59:39,119
spent hours on the phone

1502
00:59:43,910 --> 00:59:41,760
um amazing man amazing character i mean

1503
00:59:46,309 --> 00:59:43,920
we still keep in touch or try to

1504
00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:46,319
um but it is devastating because you're

1505
00:59:49,990 --> 00:59:46,960
such at

1506
00:59:51,670 --> 00:59:50,000
a very you know you're in a place where

1507
00:59:53,030 --> 00:59:51,680
you're questioning yourself your sanity

1508
00:59:53,829 --> 00:59:53,040
and all that and you reach out to get

1509
00:59:56,470 --> 00:59:53,839
help

1510
00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:56,480
and you know ufology has nothing to

1511
01:00:00,390 --> 00:59:58,240
really to do with experiences

1512
01:00:01,589 --> 01:00:00,400
you know uh it's a kind of a shunned

1513
01:00:03,510 --> 01:00:01,599
thing uh

1514
01:00:05,589 --> 01:00:03,520
lord knows i never signed up to be an

1515
01:00:06,870 --> 01:00:05,599
experiencer but now that i'm here i need

1516
01:00:08,470 --> 01:00:06,880
to figure things out

1517
01:00:10,309 --> 01:00:08,480
and i'm not going to become a youtube

1518
01:00:11,910 --> 01:00:10,319
ologist or read every book out there i

1519
01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:11,920
want to study botany i want to study

1520
01:00:16,069 --> 01:00:13,440
quantum physics i want to study

1521
01:00:18,870 --> 01:00:16,079
neurology um you know to find out these

1522
01:00:21,030 --> 01:00:18,880
things because i think

1523
01:00:22,470 --> 01:00:21,040
for the most part as long as the cia is

1524
01:00:24,230 --> 01:00:22,480
ever going to be involved in a

1525
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:24,240
particular subject

1526
01:00:27,349 --> 01:00:25,440
the social sphere is going to be

1527
01:00:28,390 --> 01:00:27,359
controlled inadvertently without people

1528
01:00:29,750 --> 01:00:28,400
noticing

1529
01:00:31,589 --> 01:00:29,760
and they're very good at it if they can

1530
01:00:33,190 --> 01:00:31,599
do it to china intelligence and russian

1531
01:00:33,829 --> 01:00:33,200
pelicans they can do it with a couple of

1532
01:00:35,670 --> 01:00:33,839
guys that

1533
01:00:37,910 --> 01:00:35,680
want to figure out what saucers are you

1534
01:00:39,349 --> 01:00:37,920
know yeah there's no question about it

1535
01:00:41,030 --> 01:00:39,359
eric stay right there we got to take a

1536
01:00:43,589 --> 01:00:41,040
break let's get that in

1537
01:00:46,630 --> 01:00:43,599
our guest tonight eric mitchell we've

1538
01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:46,640
got a lot to discuss tonight don't worry

1539
01:00:49,990 --> 01:00:48,000
we're going to pick up where we are

1540
01:00:51,430 --> 01:00:50,000
leaving off right now this is fade to

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black i'm yours jimmy church

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church on fade to black

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[Music]

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welcome back paid to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight eric mitchell

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01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:22,480
with this for the first time and i'm

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01:06:27,589 --> 01:06:24,000
gonna say this

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01:06:31,750 --> 01:06:27,599
well actually i'm gonna let eric say it

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01:06:35,510 --> 01:06:31,760
uh and it's like this eric

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01:06:39,190 --> 01:06:35,520
you don't do this often do you

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01:06:42,630 --> 01:06:39,200
no no uh i spend uh

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01:06:44,789 --> 01:06:42,640
including my my job i spent about 90

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01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:44,799
of my time working with uh people like

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01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:46,000
us people that have had

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01:06:51,670 --> 01:06:49,520
these uh anomalous experiences uh i've

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01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:51,680
worked with people like ray hernandez

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01:06:54,950 --> 01:06:53,119
that was going through a hard time

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01:06:56,230 --> 01:06:54,960
started the free organization with dr

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01:06:59,029 --> 01:06:56,240
edgar mitchell

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01:06:59,589 --> 01:06:59,039
uh worked with some of those phds there

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01:07:01,670 --> 01:06:59,599
um

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01:07:04,230 --> 01:07:01,680
my phone is constantly going with uh

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01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:04,240
people from i believe 127 different

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01:07:06,870 --> 01:07:05,280
countries of

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01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:06,880
people that hear about me i don't have a

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01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:10,240
website so obviously i do a good job

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01:07:15,349 --> 01:07:13,359
working people through the process uh

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01:07:17,510 --> 01:07:15,359
there's no help out there for anyone so

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01:07:19,029 --> 01:07:17,520
i spend all my time doing that yeah and

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01:07:22,150 --> 01:07:19,039
you chose uh

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01:07:25,270 --> 01:07:22,160
to to avoid the media

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01:07:28,069 --> 01:07:25,280
you know people like me social media

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01:07:30,710 --> 01:07:28,079
um and you don't have a website and

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01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:30,720
that's a conscious decision why did you

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01:07:36,390 --> 01:07:33,760
decide to go down that road

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01:07:38,789 --> 01:07:36,400
well jimmy i had a gun in my mouth i was

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01:07:41,109 --> 01:07:38,799
sitting in my cadillac

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01:07:41,990 --> 01:07:41,119
and i wasn't begging for help i wasn't

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01:07:43,670 --> 01:07:42,000
going to tell anybody

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01:07:45,670 --> 01:07:43,680
i was going to end my life i couldn't i

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01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:45,680
couldn't handle it and luckily my

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01:07:49,990 --> 01:07:47,760
investigator called

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01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:50,000
at that time we ended up speaking for

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01:07:53,190 --> 01:07:51,359
four hours

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01:07:54,950 --> 01:07:53,200
and he was not that kind of investigator

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01:07:55,670 --> 01:07:54,960
that would come collect the evidence and

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01:07:58,470 --> 01:07:55,680
leave

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01:08:00,150 --> 01:07:58,480
he literally knew it was important to

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01:08:02,150 --> 01:08:00,160
understand the feelings of a person that

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01:08:04,950 --> 01:08:02,160
was going through this process

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01:08:05,349 --> 01:08:04,960
and i cried i busted out and cried i

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01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:05,359
said

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01:08:10,789 --> 01:08:09,520
how could i ever repay you for you know

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01:08:12,309 --> 01:08:10,799
doing what you did for me and my

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01:08:12,870 --> 01:08:12,319
children my children were going through

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01:08:16,550 --> 01:08:12,880
this too

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01:08:17,749 --> 01:08:16,560
my neighbors were um and so

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01:08:19,030 --> 01:08:17,759
he said when you're ready and when

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01:08:20,070 --> 01:08:19,040
you're strong enough you get out there

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01:08:23,189 --> 01:08:20,080
and you help as many

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01:08:25,590 --> 01:08:23,199
people as you can like you uh so

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01:08:28,309 --> 01:08:25,600
i have i've spent the uh the past eight

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01:08:31,349 --> 01:08:28,319
years working with over 3 000 people

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01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:31,359
yeah and we thank you for that uh

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01:08:37,510 --> 01:08:34,400
uh the the other part of this

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01:08:39,269 --> 01:08:37,520
story is well

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01:08:41,910 --> 01:08:39,279
no wait a minute no i shouldn't say the

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01:08:44,309 --> 01:08:41,920
other part there's many dynamics here

1742
01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:44,319
but your neighbors start to go through

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01:08:49,269 --> 01:08:45,120
this

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01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:49,279
as well and yeah i want to talk about

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01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:52,799
what happened to them but the military

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01:09:01,269 --> 01:08:53,040
is

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01:09:06,789 --> 01:09:04,709
darn it he studied me yes um yeah

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01:09:08,550 --> 01:09:06,799
yeah yeah they're um well i don't know

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01:09:09,990 --> 01:09:08,560
if we want to call it men in black but

1750
01:09:11,430 --> 01:09:10,000
let's go ahead and blow the lid off of

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01:09:14,070 --> 01:09:11,440
that really fast

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01:09:15,269 --> 01:09:14,080
uh my neighbor debbie uh was a porter at

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01:09:18,390 --> 01:09:15,279
lakeshore condos

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01:09:20,149 --> 01:09:18,400
um just down the street from us and uh

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01:09:23,110 --> 01:09:20,159
she was cleaning out a man's room

1756
01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:23,120
and saw pictures of me and my children

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01:09:27,510 --> 01:09:25,040
developed all over his bed

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01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:27,520
uh and there was a ledger of everything

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01:09:30,870 --> 01:09:29,120
i did you know what time i went to work

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01:09:32,630 --> 01:09:30,880
what time i got off how often i went to

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01:09:34,149 --> 01:09:32,640
the grocery store

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01:09:36,789 --> 01:09:34,159
pictures of me and the kids playing in

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01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:36,799
the park so she called me into this man

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01:09:39,749 --> 01:09:37,920
stalking you

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01:09:41,590 --> 01:09:39,759
now jimmy my first thought is i've got

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01:09:42,870 --> 01:09:41,600
two teenage daughters and here's an old

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01:09:44,709 --> 01:09:42,880
creepy man

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01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:44,719
you know end of story i wasn't thinking

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01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:46,640
about uh you know the activity that was

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01:09:49,030 --> 01:09:48,480
going on at home you know father's first

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01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:49,040
instinct

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01:09:52,390 --> 01:09:51,120
you know protect the daughters sure uh

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01:09:54,390 --> 01:09:52,400
so i said debbie

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01:09:56,709 --> 01:09:54,400
hang up the phone go to the office get

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01:09:59,830 --> 01:09:56,719
that man's name i need his name

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01:10:01,430 --> 01:09:59,840
so she came back with a military name uh

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01:10:04,390 --> 01:10:01,440
lieutenant colonel dallas c

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01:10:05,669 --> 01:10:04,400
wood of the united states pentagon i

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01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:05,679
went ahead and sent

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01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:08,960
that name to my investigator and he sent

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01:10:13,830 --> 01:10:10,400
debbie five pictures

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01:10:16,709 --> 01:10:13,840
of men by the same name she

1783
01:10:17,669 --> 01:10:16,719
identified posit positively identified

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01:10:20,229 --> 01:10:17,679
um

1785
01:10:20,870 --> 01:10:20,239
colonel wood lieutenant colonel wood and

1786
01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:20,880
uh so

1787
01:10:24,229 --> 01:10:22,960
i began putting a dossier together on

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01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:24,239
him find out

1789
01:10:27,750 --> 01:10:26,640
you know who his associates were and i

1790
01:10:30,070 --> 01:10:27,760
uncovered these uh

1791
01:10:31,110 --> 01:10:30,080
bird names i couldn't find out who these

1792
01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:31,120
men were

1793
01:10:34,709 --> 01:10:33,120
um there was owl there was blue jay

1794
01:10:37,590 --> 01:10:34,719
there were all these names

1795
01:10:38,950 --> 01:10:37,600
uh come to find out there was a secret

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01:10:42,229 --> 01:10:38,960
um

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01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:42,239
project in in the uh the pentagon

1798
01:10:45,430 --> 01:10:44,640
i believe is on the fifth floor uh i i

1799
01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:45,440
could be staying

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01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:48,000
corrected about the location of that uh

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01:10:53,270 --> 01:10:49,920
but it was called the uh phenomenology

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01:10:54,709 --> 01:10:53,280
desk and uh it's called the desk to make

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01:10:56,390 --> 01:10:54,719
you think there's one or two people

1804
01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:56,400
working behind it but in fact there's

1805
01:10:58,790 --> 01:10:57,040
about

1806
01:11:00,630 --> 01:10:58,800
200 people that work in the central

1807
01:11:03,910 --> 01:11:00,640
intelligence agency

1808
01:11:07,270 --> 01:11:03,920
mainly on the ufo subject alone but not

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01:11:08,550 --> 01:11:07,280
exclusively uh to that subject hence

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01:11:10,950 --> 01:11:08,560
phenomenology

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01:11:12,310 --> 01:11:10,960
uh so i started finding out these names

1812
01:11:14,950 --> 01:11:12,320
and uh um

1813
01:11:16,070 --> 01:11:14,960
you know figuring out the uh the whole

1814
01:11:17,910 --> 01:11:16,080
path to it so

1815
01:11:19,830 --> 01:11:17,920
naturally that i came across atip and

1816
01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:19,840
asap and everything like that so when i

1817
01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:20,320
first

1818
01:11:28,070 --> 01:11:26,480
i told everybody it was the pentagon and

1819
01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:28,080
i was almost laughed out of the room by

1820
01:11:32,709 --> 01:11:30,000
ufologists uh because they were all

1821
01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:32,719
telling me no it's area 51 it says four

1822
01:11:39,830 --> 01:11:37,910
what year was this when you spoke in

1823
01:11:43,510 --> 01:11:39,840
maine

1824
01:11:45,110 --> 01:11:43,520
was 2014. and there there was a few

1825
01:11:47,189 --> 01:11:45,120
things that went down at that particular

1826
01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:47,199
conference

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01:11:51,910 --> 01:11:50,560
right was it and uh well

1828
01:11:55,030 --> 01:11:51,920
you know what we don't even need to go

1829
01:11:58,709 --> 01:11:55,040
there tonight let's stay focused um

1830
01:12:01,430 --> 01:11:58,719
uh now so yes because

1831
01:12:03,830 --> 01:12:01,440
we were all surprised in december 2017

1832
01:12:07,990 --> 01:12:03,840
with the new york times in this article

1833
01:12:10,630 --> 01:12:08,000
but you exactly you predated it by three

1834
01:12:15,750 --> 01:12:13,669
yes yes um i believe it was me audrey

1835
01:12:20,470 --> 01:12:15,760
hughes actually the humans twins

1836
01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:20,480
right the allagash twins from 1972

1837
01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:22,800
and several other people were asked to

1838
01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:24,560
uh meet out at jack

1839
01:12:30,070 --> 01:12:27,760
wiener's home to uh uh meet with this

1840
01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:30,080
gentleman that was uh very curious about

1841
01:12:32,229 --> 01:12:30,400
uh

1842
01:12:34,870 --> 01:12:32,239
what we knew i guess he picked out the

1843
01:12:37,510 --> 01:12:34,880
strongest cases that he could in america

1844
01:12:38,070 --> 01:12:37,520
pulled out a 8x10 manila envelope and uh

1845
01:12:41,189 --> 01:12:38,080
showed us

1846
01:12:42,790 --> 01:12:41,199
a uh an orange glowing sphere and uh

1847
01:12:46,149 --> 01:12:42,800
i told him it was a pretty pitiful

1848
01:12:48,229 --> 01:12:46,159
picture and uh he went from nice to uh

1849
01:12:50,870 --> 01:12:48,239
military style he said what do you mean

1850
01:12:53,110 --> 01:12:50,880
so i pulled out my uh um smartphone from

1851
01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:53,120
2013 that uh my kids had bought at

1852
01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:54,000
walmart

1853
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:55,760
and showed him a better picture and he

1854
01:12:58,709 --> 01:12:57,360
said you mean to tell me my four million

1855
01:13:01,030 --> 01:12:58,719
dollar gun camera

1856
01:13:02,550 --> 01:13:01,040
and my 18 million dollar plane can't get

1857
01:13:04,229 --> 01:13:02,560
a better picture than you

1858
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:04,239
i said well there's a difference between

1859
01:13:09,189 --> 01:13:06,480
you chasing it and chasing me

1860
01:13:10,229 --> 01:13:09,199
right you know so uh we we then started

1861
01:13:13,830 --> 01:13:10,239
talking about the

1862
01:13:15,910 --> 01:13:13,840
the plan for 2017

1863
01:13:17,030 --> 01:13:15,920
um about putting this out in the new

1864
01:13:18,709 --> 01:13:17,040
york times

1865
01:13:20,630 --> 01:13:18,719
now that might be a little confusing to

1866
01:13:23,350 --> 01:13:20,640
people that are paying really close

1867
01:13:25,030 --> 01:13:23,360
attention to ttsa but the original

1868
01:13:27,910 --> 01:13:25,040
disclosure was from uh

1869
01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:27,920
joe firmage i have the original emails i

1870
01:13:31,110 --> 01:13:29,199
know it's to the stars

1871
01:13:32,550 --> 01:13:31,120
academy of arts and science but it was

1872
01:13:34,390 --> 01:13:32,560
actually international

1873
01:13:36,630 --> 01:13:34,400
international academy of arts and

1874
01:13:38,950 --> 01:13:36,640
science and uh you know if you google

1875
01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:38,960
if you google the guy you'll see a lot

1876
01:13:41,510 --> 01:13:40,000
of uh

1877
01:13:43,030 --> 01:13:41,520
people tearing him down but he's pretty

1878
01:13:44,950 --> 01:13:43,040
much one of the most brilliant

1879
01:13:47,910 --> 01:13:44,960
scientists i've ever met

1880
01:13:48,709 --> 01:13:47,920
got a couple dwis so uh that turned him

1881
01:13:51,750 --> 01:13:48,719
into uh

1882
01:13:52,070 --> 01:13:51,760
evil villain uh pretty quickly but they

1883
01:13:55,270 --> 01:13:52,080
came

1884
01:13:58,390 --> 01:13:55,280
and

1885
01:14:01,110 --> 01:13:58,400
uh to attack his character um

1886
01:14:02,070 --> 01:14:01,120
and for those out there that uh know

1887
01:14:05,350 --> 01:14:02,080
about joe

1888
01:14:08,630 --> 01:14:05,360
and his part of of history

1889
01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:08,640
uh with the subject he was he was front

1890
01:14:14,149 --> 01:14:11,360
and center for a very very long time

1891
01:14:15,910 --> 01:14:14,159
and and had moments of a great success

1892
01:14:19,110 --> 01:14:15,920
commercial success

1893
01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:19,120
and uh was attacked uh

1894
01:14:24,950 --> 01:14:23,280
it was uh it was very unfortunate very

1895
01:14:26,229 --> 01:14:24,960
unfortunate that's a whole other show

1896
01:14:29,830 --> 01:14:26,239
too as well

1897
01:14:32,390 --> 01:14:29,840
um so

1898
01:14:33,110 --> 01:14:32,400
yeah there's no question about that um

1899
01:14:36,149 --> 01:14:33,120
so

1900
01:14:39,750 --> 01:14:36,159
now going back to the neighborhood

1901
01:14:43,189 --> 01:14:39,760
okay so how did um

1902
01:14:46,310 --> 01:14:43,199
things there you mentioned debbie and uh

1903
01:14:47,270 --> 01:14:46,320
and the colonel did things unravel

1904
01:14:49,189 --> 01:14:47,280
pretty quickly

1905
01:14:52,950 --> 01:14:49,199
in the neighborhood there on the block

1906
01:14:56,070 --> 01:14:52,960
or was it did it take longer

1907
01:14:57,750 --> 01:14:56,080
um i think you know these objects

1908
01:14:59,110 --> 01:14:57,760
would show up almost every night for an

1909
01:15:01,430 --> 01:14:59,120
entire year

1910
01:15:02,390 --> 01:15:01,440
uh there were unmarked helicopters that

1911
01:15:05,350 --> 01:15:02,400
would dip below

1912
01:15:05,910 --> 01:15:05,360
the uh the power lines um these objects

1913
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:05,920
were being

1914
01:15:09,990 --> 01:15:09,520
chased off by jets um you could see the

1915
01:15:12,470 --> 01:15:10,000
objects

1916
01:15:14,310 --> 01:15:12,480
dip down from the nose uh go up

1917
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:14,320
underneath the jet and end up following

1918
01:15:16,950 --> 01:15:14,880
the jets

1919
01:15:18,709 --> 01:15:16,960
in themselves and then come back into

1920
01:15:20,070 --> 01:15:18,719
the yard as the jets would have to take

1921
01:15:22,470 --> 01:15:20,080
a long turn

1922
01:15:23,189 --> 01:15:22,480
uh to come back almost playing cat and

1923
01:15:26,229 --> 01:15:23,199
mouse

1924
01:15:28,149 --> 01:15:26,239
right um my neighbors got very

1925
01:15:29,990 --> 01:15:28,159
very scared and they started moving out

1926
01:15:32,790 --> 01:15:30,000
uh very quickly

1927
01:15:33,189 --> 01:15:32,800
and uh there were only a few of us left

1928
01:15:34,950 --> 01:15:33,199
um

1929
01:15:37,910 --> 01:15:34,960
by the time my daughter got accepted to

1930
01:15:38,550 --> 01:15:37,920
college and uh i brought her up to maine

1931
01:15:40,630 --> 01:15:38,560
so

1932
01:15:41,910 --> 01:15:40,640
uh yeah it was that scary there it was

1933
01:15:43,510 --> 01:15:41,920
that much involved

1934
01:15:45,110 --> 01:15:43,520
there were people from all over the the

1935
01:15:46,709 --> 01:15:45,120
town that i live in uh

1936
01:15:49,189 --> 01:15:46,719
talking about it so people would drive

1937
01:15:52,630 --> 01:15:49,199
up and you know uh

1938
01:15:53,350 --> 01:15:52,640
5 10 15 20 people at a time beer cans

1939
01:15:57,110 --> 01:15:53,360
everywhere

1940
01:16:00,070 --> 01:15:57,120
out and see these things and they would

1941
01:16:01,750 --> 01:16:00,080
and uh of course very quickly a lot of

1942
01:16:04,550 --> 01:16:01,760
people in town quit talking to me

1943
01:16:06,709 --> 01:16:04,560
um i live in the bible belt so jimmy you

1944
01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:06,719
know people would uh

1945
01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:09,280
accuse me of calling down the devil that

1946
01:16:13,990 --> 01:16:10,960
was the common consensus so

1947
01:16:14,630 --> 01:16:14,000
any religious going person uh completely

1948
01:16:17,910 --> 01:16:14,640
shunned

1949
01:16:20,149 --> 01:16:17,920
you know from even talking to me

1950
01:16:21,669 --> 01:16:20,159
unless you've been in that part of the

1951
01:16:24,709 --> 01:16:21,679
country

1952
01:16:28,149 --> 01:16:24,719
arkansas missouri mississippi tennessee

1953
01:16:29,910 --> 01:16:28,159
kentucky georgia alabama when you say

1954
01:16:33,350 --> 01:16:29,920
the bible people don't understand

1955
01:16:36,709 --> 01:16:33,360
oklahoma they don't understand

1956
01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:36,719
what goes on in a town on sundays

1957
01:16:42,390 --> 01:16:41,040
right it is yeah it is a very very

1958
01:16:45,189 --> 01:16:42,400
serious thing and

1959
01:16:47,350 --> 01:16:45,199
if if you're the guy that is at the

1960
01:16:50,070 --> 01:16:47,360
center of all of this

1961
01:16:50,790 --> 01:16:50,080
uh that's going to turn bad very very

1962
01:16:53,030 --> 01:16:50,800
quickly

1963
01:16:55,110 --> 01:16:53,040
you you you would end up having to leave

1964
01:16:57,830 --> 01:16:55,120
i would think

1965
01:16:58,709 --> 01:16:57,840
yes yes yeah i was i was happy to leave

1966
01:17:00,390 --> 01:16:58,719
and and

1967
01:17:01,990 --> 01:17:00,400
you know in my mind thank god it was

1968
01:17:03,669 --> 01:17:02,000
going to be over you know at least

1969
01:17:07,110 --> 01:17:03,679
that chapter of my life was going to be

1970
01:17:08,709 --> 01:17:07,120
over and i can leave it all behind

1971
01:17:11,270 --> 01:17:08,719
i think my first night in maine

1972
01:17:13,270 --> 01:17:11,280
september 1st 2014

1973
01:17:14,870 --> 01:17:13,280
we were on the third story back deck of

1974
01:17:15,350 --> 01:17:14,880
an apartment building and i was meeting

1975
01:17:17,750 --> 01:17:15,360
my

1976
01:17:18,790 --> 01:17:17,760
new neighbors for the first time and i

1977
01:17:20,630 --> 01:17:18,800
got that feeling

1978
01:17:22,390 --> 01:17:20,640
now jimmy you know to go back i'd always

1979
01:17:23,910 --> 01:17:22,400
get this feeling to go outside

1980
01:17:25,430 --> 01:17:23,920
now this is another thing that we're

1981
01:17:26,390 --> 01:17:25,440
going to have to talk about in science

1982
01:17:29,750 --> 01:17:26,400
because

1983
01:17:31,990 --> 01:17:29,760
a lot of experiencers have this strong

1984
01:17:33,750 --> 01:17:32,000
you know urge to go outside and the

1985
01:17:34,229 --> 01:17:33,760
minute you do you know exactly where to

1986
01:17:35,669 --> 01:17:34,239
look

1987
01:17:38,149 --> 01:17:35,679
you know it's almost like you know where

1988
01:17:39,430 --> 01:17:38,159
it's at and uh so many people that have

1989
01:17:41,669 --> 01:17:39,440
had sightings

1990
01:17:43,270 --> 01:17:41,679
uh just one time thought man i just

1991
01:17:44,229 --> 01:17:43,280
thought to look up and there it was it's

1992
01:17:46,870 --> 01:17:44,239
so crazy i

1993
01:17:48,709 --> 01:17:46,880
just i don't i don't get it um there is

1994
01:17:49,830 --> 01:17:48,719
science to that there's a lot of science

1995
01:17:52,470 --> 01:17:49,840
to it but

1996
01:17:54,149 --> 01:17:52,480
um you know i got that feeling again on

1997
01:17:57,750 --> 01:17:54,159
my back porch i thought everything was

1998
01:18:00,229 --> 01:17:57,760
gone i'm 1500 miles away it's over with

1999
01:18:01,030 --> 01:18:00,239
meeting very nice new neighbors and all

2000
01:18:03,270 --> 01:18:01,040
of a sudden here

2001
01:18:04,709 --> 01:18:03,280
comes through the park up over the trees

2002
01:18:07,590 --> 01:18:04,719
and dips down above the street

2003
01:18:08,390 --> 01:18:07,600
eye level uh with the deck my two new

2004
01:18:09,910 --> 01:18:08,400
neighbors uh

2005
01:18:11,510 --> 01:18:09,920
husband and wife were kicking over

2006
01:18:13,350 --> 01:18:11,520
chairs and pushing each other just

2007
01:18:14,870 --> 01:18:13,360
trying to get into the back door to get

2008
01:18:17,510 --> 01:18:14,880
away from this thing because it was

2009
01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:17,520
right in our faces uh there were three

2010
01:18:21,110 --> 01:18:17,920
blue

2011
01:18:22,950 --> 01:18:21,120
circular or spherical ones accompanying

2012
01:18:24,630 --> 01:18:22,960
it and stayed behind in the park just

2013
01:18:27,350 --> 01:18:24,640
hovering off the ground

2014
01:18:27,990 --> 01:18:27,360
and that was uh my first uh my first

2015
01:18:31,430 --> 01:18:28,000
evening in

2016
01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:31,440
in maine um of course it hasn't stopped

2017
01:18:36,390 --> 01:18:33,360
um right in front of everyone in las

2018
01:18:39,189 --> 01:18:36,400
vegas apache helicopter showing up

2019
01:18:41,510 --> 01:18:39,199
um mufon people being posted up on the

2020
01:18:43,750 --> 01:18:41,520
mountain across the street on red rock

2021
01:18:44,550 --> 01:18:43,760
um if you've heard of the activity uh on

2022
01:18:46,950 --> 01:18:44,560
red rock

2023
01:18:49,510 --> 01:18:46,960
i think there's can't think of a man's

2024
01:18:52,790 --> 01:18:49,520
name a wonderful gentleman but he

2025
01:18:54,310 --> 01:18:52,800
steve steve barone steve

2026
01:18:56,229 --> 01:18:54,320
yeah that's correct there was also

2027
01:18:58,470 --> 01:18:56,239
another guy in mufon that

2028
01:19:00,149 --> 01:18:58,480
noticed this object coming over my house

2029
01:19:01,750 --> 01:19:00,159
and then shooting straight up and it was

2030
01:19:04,470 --> 01:19:01,760
an orange sphere

2031
01:19:05,910 --> 01:19:04,480
he ended up knocking on my door and uh

2032
01:19:07,590 --> 01:19:05,920
he was nervous about it you know

2033
01:19:09,270 --> 01:19:07,600
poor guy you know how do you start that

2034
01:19:11,110 --> 01:19:09,280
conversation he said well

2035
01:19:12,950 --> 01:19:11,120
i'm sorry to bother you but have you

2036
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:12,960
ever heard of ufos and i said well would

2037
01:19:15,270 --> 01:19:14,560
you like to come in and have a glass of

2038
01:19:17,750 --> 01:19:15,280
tea

2039
01:19:19,590 --> 01:19:17,760
and he ended up showing me uh and giving

2040
01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:19,600
me pictures of this object

2041
01:19:22,630 --> 01:19:21,520
coming over my home in vegas and then

2042
01:19:25,189 --> 01:19:22,640
shooting straight up

2043
01:19:26,470 --> 01:19:25,199
so it seems no matter where i go i mean

2044
01:19:29,030 --> 01:19:26,480
this is going to be

2045
01:19:31,030 --> 01:19:29,040
you know something and you know i think

2046
01:19:32,709 --> 01:19:31,040
it's a waste of my time trying to

2047
01:19:34,390 --> 01:19:32,719
boast to the public the hell that i go

2048
01:19:36,709 --> 01:19:34,400
through on a daily basis

2049
01:19:38,550 --> 01:19:36,719
and really uh put my knuckles down and

2050
01:19:39,510 --> 01:19:38,560
uh and do the work necessary to figure

2051
01:19:41,590 --> 01:19:39,520
out what's going on

2052
01:19:43,669 --> 01:19:41,600
even if it takes destroying my world

2053
01:19:47,669 --> 01:19:43,679
view once again

2054
01:19:49,750 --> 01:19:47,679
i did i so want to ask

2055
01:19:51,030 --> 01:19:49,760
what the conversation was with your new

2056
01:19:53,350 --> 01:19:51,040
neighbors in maine

2057
01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:53,360
uh after that but we'll we'll save that

2058
01:19:58,149 --> 01:19:55,040
for another time

2059
01:20:01,350 --> 01:19:58,159
the uh the other step now

2060
01:20:04,950 --> 01:20:01,360
i understand uh

2061
01:20:08,550 --> 01:20:04,960
these these you know orbs spheres

2062
01:20:11,430 --> 01:20:08,560
ships uh whatever they are are

2063
01:20:12,310 --> 01:20:11,440
are following you but was there a next

2064
01:20:15,669 --> 01:20:12,320
step

2065
01:20:18,229 --> 01:20:15,679
uh to communication

2066
01:20:20,070 --> 01:20:18,239
uh that we're still trying to figure out

2067
01:20:21,189 --> 01:20:20,080
it's a series of vibrations and

2068
01:20:24,470 --> 01:20:21,199
frequencies that

2069
01:20:25,830 --> 01:20:24,480
i'm somehow able to um interact with

2070
01:20:28,390 --> 01:20:25,840
with my brain

2071
01:20:30,070 --> 01:20:28,400
um um we are going to study that at

2072
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:30,080
stanford university and harvard

2073
01:20:33,270 --> 01:20:31,360
university

2074
01:20:34,390 --> 01:20:33,280
and uh figure this whole thing out i

2075
01:20:36,950 --> 01:20:34,400
mean um

2076
01:20:38,229 --> 01:20:36,960
dr gary nolan at stanford university did

2077
01:20:40,229 --> 01:20:38,239
a study on

2078
01:20:42,550 --> 01:20:40,239
a hundred experiencers and what he's

2079
01:20:45,270 --> 01:20:42,560
finding is anywhere from 30 to 50

2080
01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:45,280
even 100 hertz admitting from an

2081
01:20:49,430 --> 01:20:46,560
experiencer's brain at

2082
01:20:50,229 --> 01:20:49,440
any given time now see they're not aware

2083
01:20:52,149 --> 01:20:50,239
of it

2084
01:20:53,750 --> 01:20:52,159
and there is no mechanism that we know

2085
01:20:56,390 --> 01:20:53,760
of that can create this

2086
01:20:58,950 --> 01:20:56,400
but it's still happening so uh for me to

2087
01:21:03,590 --> 01:20:58,960
be able to go into a recording studio

2088
01:21:05,590 --> 01:21:03,600
and recorded 1545 hertz

2089
01:21:06,709 --> 01:21:05,600
uh kind of surprised the heck out of my

2090
01:21:09,110 --> 01:21:06,719
investigator

2091
01:21:11,350 --> 01:21:09,120
not to mention it was it will and i

2092
01:21:13,669 --> 01:21:11,360
controlled it better than my voice

2093
01:21:14,790 --> 01:21:13,679
now i know that sounds nuts but trust me

2094
01:21:16,790 --> 01:21:14,800
i had to deal with it

2095
01:21:18,629 --> 01:21:16,800
um i thought like i said i thought i had

2096
01:21:20,870 --> 01:21:18,639
a brain tumor i thought i had all kinds

2097
01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:20,880
of things going on with me but uh

2098
01:21:25,990 --> 01:21:23,360
it turns out in the study that

2099
01:21:28,550 --> 01:21:26,000
experiencers have a

2100
01:21:30,470 --> 01:21:28,560
highly active caudiputainment and basal

2101
01:21:33,350 --> 01:21:30,480
ganglia and they seem to be fused in the

2102
01:21:35,510 --> 01:21:33,360
right hemisphere of the brain

2103
01:21:37,590 --> 01:21:35,520
what we're not sure of is that the

2104
01:21:40,149 --> 01:21:37,600
electromagnetic field that's related to

2105
01:21:42,149 --> 01:21:40,159
consciousness

2106
01:21:44,550 --> 01:21:42,159
be affected from these crafts so when

2107
01:21:47,830 --> 01:21:44,560
you see this blue or orange sphere

2108
01:21:49,510 --> 01:21:47,840
um this electromagnetic activity is

2109
01:21:51,830 --> 01:21:49,520
pretty much the same thing it fires

2110
01:21:55,990 --> 01:21:51,840
between our neural synopsis

2111
01:21:58,550 --> 01:21:56,000
um so as a placeholder word jimmy

2112
01:21:59,430 --> 01:21:58,560
okay just a placeholder word spooky

2113
01:22:01,350 --> 01:21:59,440
actions that

2114
01:22:03,669 --> 01:22:01,360
you know at a distance like einstein

2115
01:22:05,990 --> 01:22:03,679
talked about or quantum entanglement

2116
01:22:07,990 --> 01:22:06,000
um but if you look at uh dr gary nolan's

2117
01:22:10,229 --> 01:22:08,000
work he's finding non

2118
01:22:11,030 --> 01:22:10,239
non-local microtubules that have the

2119
01:22:14,229 --> 01:22:11,040
ability to

2120
01:22:18,390 --> 01:22:14,239
leave the brain and come back uh thus

2121
01:22:21,830 --> 01:22:18,400
giving it the nickname uh the antenna

2122
01:22:25,350 --> 01:22:21,840
so um there's are you from

2123
01:22:27,510 --> 01:22:25,360
i i am i am i am and yeah we

2124
01:22:28,550 --> 01:22:27,520
we we talk about these subjects all the

2125
01:22:31,750 --> 01:22:28,560
time on the show

2126
01:22:33,750 --> 01:22:31,760
actually um i don't want to get away

2127
01:22:36,550 --> 01:22:33,760
from where we are right now

2128
01:22:37,350 --> 01:22:36,560
but uh i had avi loeb on the show last

2129
01:22:39,830 --> 01:22:37,360
week

2130
01:22:42,310 --> 01:22:39,840
uh from harvard and you know he's got

2131
01:22:44,790 --> 01:22:42,320
his new book out extraterrestrial

2132
01:22:46,149 --> 01:22:44,800
and that was one of the subjects that

2133
01:22:46,790 --> 01:22:46,159
you know that i brought up with him

2134
01:22:52,070 --> 01:22:46,800
which is

2135
01:22:54,550 --> 01:22:52,080
part of

2136
01:22:55,590 --> 01:22:54,560
physics and quantum physics that quantum

2137
01:22:58,390 --> 01:22:55,600
physics

2138
01:22:59,590 --> 01:22:58,400
doesn't want to touch is what is

2139
01:23:02,950 --> 01:22:59,600
consciousness

2140
01:23:05,510 --> 01:23:02,960
you know and and they know

2141
01:23:06,070 --> 01:23:05,520
something is there something is going on

2142
01:23:08,310 --> 01:23:06,080
they know

2143
01:23:09,430 --> 01:23:08,320
as a physicist they can think and talk

2144
01:23:12,790 --> 01:23:09,440
and laugh

2145
01:23:14,790 --> 01:23:12,800
and ponder they don't know why

2146
01:23:18,950 --> 01:23:14,800
right but they don't but they don't want

2147
01:23:25,270 --> 01:23:22,629
what was that oh i think my phone

2148
01:23:27,030 --> 01:23:25,280
just like that would that was crazy see

2149
01:23:30,709 --> 01:23:27,040
i thought that

2150
01:23:32,070 --> 01:23:30,719
kicking off

2151
01:23:34,070 --> 01:23:32,080
no but you're gonna see that in the

2152
01:23:35,110 --> 01:23:34,080
documentary i mean the guys just flipped

2153
01:23:36,070 --> 01:23:35,120
out when they picked it up on the

2154
01:23:37,750 --> 01:23:36,080
microphone

2155
01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:37,760
uh but harvard should know quite a bit

2156
01:23:41,750 --> 01:23:39,840
about compas uh you know consciousness

2157
01:23:42,870 --> 01:23:41,760
because i did give them the epu report

2158
01:23:45,750 --> 01:23:42,880
that was locked up in

2159
01:23:48,149 --> 01:23:45,760
lockheed martin since 1952. i believe

2160
01:23:50,550 --> 01:23:48,159
stephen greer talks a lot about um

2161
01:23:51,750 --> 01:23:50,560
you know 1952 and electric vidics being

2162
01:23:54,070 --> 01:23:51,760
locked up

2163
01:23:55,350 --> 01:23:54,080
and uh i think that has a lot to do with

2164
01:23:57,110 --> 01:23:55,360
it um

2165
01:23:58,550 --> 01:23:57,120
but i've been working with harvard on

2166
01:23:59,750 --> 01:23:58,560
and off for about a year and a half to

2167
01:24:01,669 --> 01:23:59,760
go ahead and get the

2168
01:24:03,510 --> 01:24:01,679
study started over there hook them up

2169
01:24:03,830 --> 01:24:03,520
with stanford university and i just got

2170
01:24:08,149 --> 01:24:03,840
the

2171
01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:08,159
i'll

2172
01:24:11,350 --> 01:24:10,480
consult as far as what is a real

2173
01:24:15,350 --> 01:24:11,360
experience or

2174
01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:15,360
subject let me jump in

2175
01:24:19,030 --> 01:24:16,960
and now we're getting some em

2176
01:24:20,229 --> 01:24:19,040
interference tap on your microphone

2177
01:24:24,629 --> 01:24:20,239
right here

2178
01:24:28,709 --> 01:24:24,639
tap on it okay it's not working

2179
01:24:33,270 --> 01:24:28,719
okay can you hear me yeah

2180
01:24:36,790 --> 01:24:33,280
okay yeah that is not on that's shut off

2181
01:24:38,709 --> 01:24:36,800
nope nope nope that's not trippy

2182
01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:38,719
no no i started to hear some weird

2183
01:24:43,750 --> 01:24:40,320
noises

2184
01:24:45,830 --> 01:24:43,760
and things switched see that's what

2185
01:24:46,470 --> 01:24:45,840
happens man you walk around this em

2186
01:24:50,709 --> 01:24:46,480
energy

2187
01:24:52,470 --> 01:24:50,719
eric and and he messes with everything

2188
01:24:54,310 --> 01:24:52,480
yeah you do you do that's why i'm not

2189
01:24:54,629 --> 01:24:54,320
very good with electronics everything i

2190
01:24:57,990 --> 01:24:54,639
touch

2191
01:24:59,590 --> 01:24:58,000
goes to uh goes downhill from there

2192
01:25:01,990 --> 01:24:59,600
um but i don't know if you heard me i

2193
01:25:05,590 --> 01:25:02,000
did get uh yes

2194
01:25:08,390 --> 01:25:05,600
i need you to stay closer okay

2195
01:25:10,470 --> 01:25:08,400
and then when we take our break you can

2196
01:25:13,270 --> 01:25:10,480
get your microphone hooked back up but

2197
01:25:15,510 --> 01:25:13,280
for now just lean forward

2198
01:25:17,189 --> 01:25:15,520
okay all right can you hear me now yeah

2199
01:25:19,510 --> 01:25:17,199
we got you we got you

2200
01:25:21,990 --> 01:25:19,520
okay all right yeah i just got a text

2201
01:25:24,470 --> 01:25:22,000
message this week from harvard medical

2202
01:25:25,110 --> 01:25:24,480
um saying that they submitted the uh the

2203
01:25:28,229 --> 01:25:25,120
program

2204
01:25:29,990 --> 01:25:28,239
i contacted a year and a half ago um

2205
01:25:32,310 --> 01:25:30,000
been feeding them information the

2206
01:25:34,070 --> 01:25:32,320
science of consciousness the epe report

2207
01:25:36,149 --> 01:25:34,080
from lockheed martin

2208
01:25:37,830 --> 01:25:36,159
um the side effects of the

2209
01:25:40,870 --> 01:25:37,840
quintessential experience here since

2210
01:25:42,709 --> 01:25:40,880
i've worked with over three 000 so far

2211
01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:42,719
i deal with the internal aspects you

2212
01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:44,080
know what you deal with

2213
01:25:48,070 --> 01:25:47,040
empathy psychic behavior all the side

2214
01:25:50,550 --> 01:25:48,080
effects of

2215
01:25:51,590 --> 01:25:50,560
you know your your electronics frying on

2216
01:25:53,830 --> 01:25:51,600
you

2217
01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:53,840
especially through high grade emotions

2218
01:25:57,430 --> 01:25:54,880
so

2219
01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:57,440
um i believe i'm going to be consulting

2220
01:26:01,430 --> 01:25:59,520
with them on on various ways as they

2221
01:26:03,110 --> 01:26:01,440
work their way through this project

2222
01:26:05,030 --> 01:26:03,120
so we can study the caudate detainment

2223
01:26:08,390 --> 01:26:05,040
basal ganglia

2224
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a lot of dna studies psychological

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01:26:12,070 --> 01:26:10,880
sociological what have you been through

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01:26:13,830 --> 01:26:12,080
and uh

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try to widen this study as much as

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01:26:17,750 --> 01:26:15,120
possible with

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01:26:18,149 --> 01:26:17,760
all of the evidence that we have from

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01:26:21,189 --> 01:26:18,159
you know

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01:26:23,110 --> 01:26:21,199
anonymous experiencers and uh get to the

2232
01:26:24,149 --> 01:26:23,120
bottom of this because i i believe we're

2233
01:26:27,270 --> 01:26:24,159
looking at uh

2234
01:26:29,590 --> 01:26:27,280
either it comes from birth or we're

2235
01:26:31,830 --> 01:26:29,600
directly affected by these objects

2236
01:26:33,590 --> 01:26:31,840
which looks like both honestly i mean if

2237
01:26:36,070 --> 01:26:33,600
you think about it long enough

2238
01:26:37,669 --> 01:26:36,080
and uh i think that they well it's gonna

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01:26:39,430 --> 01:26:37,679
first of all blow the lid off this

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01:26:42,870 --> 01:26:39,440
scientifically do we exist

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01:26:45,910 --> 01:26:42,880
yes we do um secondly

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01:26:49,110 --> 01:26:45,920
what's the science behind it and uh what

2243
01:26:52,470 --> 01:26:49,120
how capable are these evolved minds

2244
01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:52,480
um are i mean um these are amazing

2245
01:26:54,550 --> 01:26:52,960
people

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01:26:56,390 --> 01:26:54,560
you know at any given time i'm working

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01:26:58,709 --> 01:26:56,400
with about 300 of them

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01:27:00,310 --> 01:26:58,719
and they are the kindest take their

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01:27:00,629 --> 01:27:00,320
shirt off they're back for a stranger

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01:27:02,870 --> 01:27:00,639
type

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01:27:04,629 --> 01:27:02,880
people you'll ever meet in your life and

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01:27:05,590 --> 01:27:04,639
uh they're humble you know of course

2253
01:27:07,510 --> 01:27:05,600
they're going to be

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01:27:09,430 --> 01:27:07,520
but uh there's so many attributes that

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01:27:11,270 --> 01:27:09,440
collate that you can't turned an eye to

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01:27:12,790 --> 01:27:11,280
it i mean look at john mack i mean he he

2257
01:27:16,229 --> 01:27:12,800
picked up on that pretty quickly

2258
01:27:19,669 --> 01:27:16,239
yes he certainly did and there's

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01:27:23,270 --> 01:27:19,679
uh before we head to the break

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01:27:25,270 --> 01:27:23,280
the the objects that you have been

2261
01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:25,280
seeing and others

2262
01:27:31,910 --> 01:27:29,040
do you think that this is energy

2263
01:27:34,390 --> 01:27:31,920
or do you think it's a physical craft

2264
01:27:36,550 --> 01:27:34,400
that is lit up

2265
01:27:39,030 --> 01:27:36,560
it's a i believe it's a physical craft

2266
01:27:41,430 --> 01:27:39,040
that's lit up i've had to uh

2267
01:27:42,070 --> 01:27:41,440
man follow the breadcrumbs if you will

2268
01:27:44,550 --> 01:27:42,080
um

2269
01:27:45,430 --> 01:27:44,560
you know one breakthrough that joe

2270
01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:45,440
furman came

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01:27:50,709 --> 01:27:48,480
up with i really can't speak on too much

2272
01:27:52,470 --> 01:27:50,719
uh but basically you rub two magnets

2273
01:27:53,270 --> 01:27:52,480
together the right way and you create

2274
01:27:56,229 --> 01:27:53,280
the same

2275
01:27:57,590 --> 01:27:56,239
stuff as consciousness is made out of so

2276
01:28:00,390 --> 01:27:57,600
there you go into uh

2277
01:28:01,430 --> 01:28:00,400
quantum physics where you rub two sticks

2278
01:28:04,470 --> 01:28:01,440
together and you create

2279
01:28:06,229 --> 01:28:04,480
fire now you rub two magnets together

2280
01:28:07,830 --> 01:28:06,239
and it creates the same substance as

2281
01:28:09,590 --> 01:28:07,840
consciousness now you got to think about

2282
01:28:11,189 --> 01:28:09,600
ben rich standing on the stage from

2283
01:28:13,830 --> 01:28:11,199
lockheed martin

2284
01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:13,840
in front of mufon and the head of mufon

2285
01:28:17,830 --> 01:28:16,000
comes running up and you know

2286
01:28:19,189 --> 01:28:17,840
he said we finally found a way to take

2287
01:28:20,950 --> 01:28:19,199
e.t home and and

2288
01:28:23,590 --> 01:28:20,960
mufon was like wait a minute i have to

2289
01:28:25,750 --> 01:28:23,600
know and ben rich said well

2290
01:28:27,430 --> 01:28:25,760
how you know how do you think it works

2291
01:28:28,870 --> 01:28:27,440
and mufon says

2292
01:28:31,030 --> 01:28:28,880
all things in time and space are

2293
01:28:31,990 --> 01:28:31,040
connected and he said that's exactly how

2294
01:28:36,229 --> 01:28:32,000
it works

2295
01:28:37,830 --> 01:28:36,239
suspicious for a long time

2296
01:28:40,229 --> 01:28:37,840
and i was at my investigator's house

2297
01:28:42,470 --> 01:28:40,239
last year i had a dream

2298
01:28:43,510 --> 01:28:42,480
that they called me out overwhelming

2299
01:28:45,510 --> 01:28:43,520
feeling you know

2300
01:28:47,590 --> 01:28:45,520
had the dream went outside i even

2301
01:28:48,870 --> 01:28:47,600
dreamed i filmed this thing you know

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01:28:51,750 --> 01:28:48,880
just over my neighbor's house

2303
01:28:52,390 --> 01:28:51,760
got up the next morning um the mater

2304
01:28:55,430 --> 01:28:52,400
system

2305
01:28:55,990 --> 01:28:55,440
um on the roof of my investigator's

2306
01:28:58,629 --> 01:28:56,000
house went

2307
01:29:00,629 --> 01:28:58,639
off with electromagnetic activity high

2308
01:29:02,310 --> 01:29:00,639
electromagnetic activity

2309
01:29:04,470 --> 01:29:02,320
so i said bear you're not going to

2310
01:29:06,229 --> 01:29:04,480
believe this you know i had

2311
01:29:08,310 --> 01:29:06,239
i had a dream they called me outside and

2312
01:29:09,669 --> 01:29:08,320
i filmed one and he leaned over with

2313
01:29:12,070 --> 01:29:09,679
that big hat of his

2314
01:29:13,750 --> 01:29:12,080
looked over his glass at me he glasses

2315
01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:13,760
at me and he said eric check your phone

2316
01:29:17,350 --> 01:29:15,600
and i said no bear it's just a dream he

2317
01:29:18,950 --> 01:29:17,360
said eric check your phone

2318
01:29:21,510 --> 01:29:18,960
i pulled my phone up and there's a one

2319
01:29:23,110 --> 01:29:21,520
minute and three three second video

2320
01:29:25,430 --> 01:29:23,120
of not only this object over my

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01:29:27,830 --> 01:29:25,440
neighbor's house but a blue

2322
01:29:29,590 --> 01:29:27,840
shimmer in the bushes right in front of

2323
01:29:31,270 --> 01:29:29,600
me where this blue light

2324
01:29:32,709 --> 01:29:31,280
that you hear about so much that comes

2325
01:29:34,070 --> 01:29:32,719
in your window or comes through your

2326
01:29:36,390 --> 01:29:34,080
windshield

2327
01:29:37,189 --> 01:29:36,400
causes missing time screen memories and

2328
01:29:39,189 --> 01:29:37,199
all that

2329
01:29:41,189 --> 01:29:39,199
this is that blue light that is uh

2330
01:29:42,229 --> 01:29:41,199
interacting with the caudate and basal

2331
01:29:44,709 --> 01:29:42,239
ganglia

2332
01:29:46,310 --> 01:29:44,719
um so where's the manipulation it's

2333
01:29:48,629 --> 01:29:46,320
there where is the connection

2334
01:29:49,510 --> 01:29:48,639
it's there um that is the uh

2335
01:29:51,750 --> 01:29:49,520
quintessential

2336
01:29:52,950 --> 01:29:51,760
antenna if you have that ability you're

2337
01:29:53,830 --> 01:29:52,960
probably going to have trouble in your

2338
01:29:57,590 --> 01:29:53,840
life

2339
01:30:00,790 --> 01:29:57,600
why is it that uh i've got 60 seconds

2340
01:30:05,030 --> 01:30:00,800
uh where i feel that i can

2341
01:30:08,870 --> 01:30:05,040
and i've done it and so many others can

2342
01:30:13,590 --> 01:30:08,880
go outside in the right mood

2343
01:30:17,030 --> 01:30:13,600
look up and right happens right then

2344
01:30:19,189 --> 01:30:17,040
that's not coincidence is it

2345
01:30:20,149 --> 01:30:19,199
no it's not no it's not i mean it's it's

2346
01:30:22,709 --> 01:30:20,159
the connection

2347
01:30:24,550 --> 01:30:22,719
you know it is that connection um it's

2348
01:30:25,830 --> 01:30:24,560
hard for us to fathom i mean i think

2349
01:30:28,229 --> 01:30:25,840
every hundred years we're at the

2350
01:30:29,910 --> 01:30:28,239
pinnacle of our belief system but uh

2351
01:30:32,149 --> 01:30:29,920
next hundred years we're laughing at

2352
01:30:34,950 --> 01:30:32,159
ourselves and and right now is a turn of

2353
01:30:37,990 --> 01:30:34,960
events to understand that consciousness

2354
01:30:40,470 --> 01:30:38,000
is non-local and i think a lot of

2355
01:30:41,830 --> 01:30:40,480
pushback is there uh through religion

2356
01:30:45,110 --> 01:30:41,840
and science and

2357
01:30:47,510 --> 01:30:45,120
predetermined belief systems um but

2358
01:30:49,110 --> 01:30:47,520
it's there it's scientifically there and

2359
01:30:51,189 --> 01:30:49,120
uh we're out to prove it

2360
01:30:52,790 --> 01:30:51,199
let's take our break right here this is

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01:30:54,629 --> 01:30:52,800
fade to black i'm your host jimmy church

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01:30:55,910 --> 01:30:54,639
i guess tonight eric mitchell

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you've been waiting for this

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01:30:59,030 --> 01:30:58,239
conversation well it is happening

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tonight

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eric mitchell we'll get to more with

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mitchell and you know this is what's

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great about this show

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01:36:06,310 --> 01:36:02,880
um eric i i did sports for a while

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01:36:09,750 --> 01:36:06,320
and when i did sports i had zero

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issues with with technical stuff none

2461
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nothing ever happened start talking

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about ufos and the cia

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01:36:21,189 --> 01:36:18,239
things things go crazy

2464
01:36:22,310 --> 01:36:21,199
yeah yeah oh just to add to that really

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fast

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01:36:25,750 --> 01:36:23,840
here's something that's really creepy

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01:36:27,350 --> 01:36:25,760
you know i got off the phone with

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01:36:29,590 --> 01:36:27,360
harvard med the first time

2469
01:36:31,430 --> 01:36:29,600
i i contacted them i really wanted them

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01:36:33,990 --> 01:36:31,440
to take a look at uh some

2471
01:36:35,590 --> 01:36:34,000
you know just all these papers and uh so

2472
01:36:38,709 --> 01:36:35,600
much information i had to

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01:36:39,189 --> 01:36:38,719
um shove down their throat and you know

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01:36:40,470 --> 01:36:39,199
this guy

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01:36:41,590 --> 01:36:40,480
said you know he was really cool about

2476
01:36:43,510 --> 01:36:41,600
it he said you know i'm gonna look into

2477
01:36:46,470 --> 01:36:43,520
this it sounds like it's got merit

2478
01:36:47,910 --> 01:36:46,480
and he said no cia no spooks nothing

2479
01:36:50,470 --> 01:36:47,920
like that just to study

2480
01:36:51,109 --> 01:36:50,480
and i said yeah off the phone with him

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01:36:53,510 --> 01:36:51,119
uh

2482
01:36:55,350 --> 01:36:53,520
dr christopher green or kitt green from

2483
01:36:57,350 --> 01:36:55,360
the cia calls him up

2484
01:36:58,709 --> 01:36:57,360
i mean as soon i mean how hell in the

2485
01:36:59,590 --> 01:36:58,719
world he said he wanted to be involved

2486
01:37:02,149 --> 01:36:59,600
with the study

2487
01:37:03,430 --> 01:37:02,159
now how in the world uh that was our

2488
01:37:05,350 --> 01:37:03,440
first conversation

2489
01:37:07,270 --> 01:37:05,360
did he have any clue that that

2490
01:37:09,189 --> 01:37:07,280
conversation happened unless he was

2491
01:37:11,350 --> 01:37:09,199
paying very close attention not to

2492
01:37:11,910 --> 01:37:11,360
mention you know he was aka blue jay in

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01:37:15,109 --> 01:37:11,920
the uh

2494
01:37:17,350 --> 01:37:15,119
the aviary uh these bird people yes

2495
01:37:18,950 --> 01:37:17,360
and uh turns out he was the head of the

2496
01:37:21,590 --> 01:37:18,960
phenomenology desk

2497
01:37:22,870 --> 01:37:21,600
uh for quite some time before uh ron

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01:37:24,229 --> 01:37:22,880
pandolfi

2499
01:37:25,990 --> 01:37:24,239
uh which is now the head of the

2500
01:37:28,709 --> 01:37:26,000
phenomenology desk

2501
01:37:29,510 --> 01:37:28,719
and uh so yeah these guys are top

2502
01:37:31,350 --> 01:37:29,520
echelon

2503
01:37:34,470 --> 01:37:31,360
yeah they're listening right now trust

2504
01:37:37,669 --> 01:37:34,480
me trust me um

2505
01:37:40,870 --> 01:37:37,679
now uh what do you make of

2506
01:37:44,310 --> 01:37:40,880
as you've gone through uh

2507
01:37:47,189 --> 01:37:44,320
so much since 2013

2508
01:37:47,830 --> 01:37:47,199
what do you make of the things that are

2509
01:37:51,750 --> 01:37:47,840
happening

2510
01:37:54,950 --> 01:37:51,760
today i i just posted up i i watched

2511
01:37:55,830 --> 01:37:54,960
uh marco rubio's comments uh that were

2512
01:37:58,390 --> 01:37:55,840
just posted

2513
01:38:00,390 --> 01:37:58,400
i don't know if you caught it but his

2514
01:38:01,990 --> 01:38:00,400
comments today were pretty incredible i

2515
01:38:05,590 --> 01:38:02,000
was gonna replay him on the show

2516
01:38:07,830 --> 01:38:05,600
tonight uh talking about this report and

2517
01:38:08,870 --> 01:38:07,840
what's going on with uaps i think it's

2518
01:38:11,910 --> 01:38:08,880
tmz

2519
01:38:15,109 --> 01:38:11,920
actually so chew on that for a second

2520
01:38:17,270 --> 01:38:15,119
and the guy from tmz is pushing the ufo

2521
01:38:19,189 --> 01:38:17,280
question right is it aliens are they

2522
01:38:21,430 --> 01:38:19,199
coming down are aliens a threat what's

2523
01:38:21,910 --> 01:38:21,440
going on and marcus i'm not going there

2524
01:38:24,790 --> 01:38:21,920
just

2525
01:38:25,910 --> 01:38:24,800
yet but something is going on and we

2526
01:38:28,070 --> 01:38:25,920
need to find out

2527
01:38:29,590 --> 01:38:28,080
what it is well we're talking about the

2528
01:38:32,470 --> 01:38:29,600
head of the you know the

2529
01:38:33,990 --> 01:38:32,480
senate intelligence committee and these

2530
01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:34,000
conversations happening

2531
01:38:38,950 --> 01:38:36,880
in the public domain what do you think

2532
01:38:40,790 --> 01:38:38,960
is going on

2533
01:38:42,310 --> 01:38:40,800
well i think it's a yin and yang

2534
01:38:45,669 --> 01:38:42,320
situation i mean they

2535
01:38:48,629 --> 01:38:45,679
wanted this to come out they you know

2536
01:38:50,229 --> 01:38:48,639
what it was put to me back in 2015 with

2537
01:38:50,790 --> 01:38:50,239
quotation marks you know with his

2538
01:38:53,109 --> 01:38:50,800
fingers

2539
01:38:55,510 --> 01:38:53,119
is there's going to be a weathering you

2540
01:38:59,669 --> 01:38:55,520
know more on television more on the news

2541
01:39:02,070 --> 01:38:59,679
a break in 2017 with the new york times

2542
01:39:02,709 --> 01:39:02,080
but i was also warned about it because

2543
01:39:05,750 --> 01:39:02,719
you know

2544
01:39:08,390 --> 01:39:05,760
this is a very important thing i mean um

2545
01:39:09,750 --> 01:39:08,400
not to upset too many people but it's uh

2546
01:39:12,470 --> 01:39:09,760
more useful than

2547
01:39:14,709 --> 01:39:12,480
kovit you know the wrong people can take

2548
01:39:16,790 --> 01:39:14,719
advantage of such a powerful

2549
01:39:18,070 --> 01:39:16,800
uh paradigm shift uh you know

2550
01:39:20,790 --> 01:39:18,080
psychologically

2551
01:39:21,669 --> 01:39:20,800
financially um not to mention the war

2552
01:39:25,990 --> 01:39:21,679
machine

2553
01:39:27,910 --> 01:39:26,000
i said why would we want to go to war

2554
01:39:29,030 --> 01:39:27,920
you know against something that we don't

2555
01:39:30,709 --> 01:39:29,040
even understand yet

2556
01:39:32,470 --> 01:39:30,719
and he said well when your mind's shaped

2557
01:39:33,590 --> 01:39:32,480
like a hammer every problem has to look

2558
01:39:35,430 --> 01:39:33,600
like a nail

2559
01:39:37,590 --> 01:39:35,440
and that really just sunk into my

2560
01:39:40,950 --> 01:39:37,600
stomach i went oh my god this is

2561
01:39:42,390 --> 01:39:40,960
sociopathic you know it's it's nuts um

2562
01:39:44,070 --> 01:39:42,400
but you know that's what we're looking

2563
01:39:46,310 --> 01:39:44,080
at i mean

2564
01:39:47,830 --> 01:39:46,320
anything that could be used by the

2565
01:39:50,709 --> 01:39:47,840
quintessential narcissist

2566
01:39:52,870 --> 01:39:50,719
uh will be used uh against the uh the

2567
01:39:54,470 --> 01:39:52,880
american people and the world's people

2568
01:39:55,830 --> 01:39:54,480
um so we got to watch out for that you

2569
01:39:57,109 --> 01:39:55,840
know who are the bad guys and who are

2570
01:39:59,350 --> 01:39:57,119
the good guys here

2571
01:40:00,870 --> 01:39:59,360
uh but most importantly i think

2572
01:40:03,030 --> 01:40:00,880
experiencers themselves

2573
01:40:05,590 --> 01:40:03,040
need to um get together and meet each

2574
01:40:08,709 --> 01:40:05,600
other and and start talking more because

2575
01:40:11,830 --> 01:40:08,719
jimmy so much has changed so fast

2576
01:40:13,990 --> 01:40:11,840
you know just from my perspective um

2577
01:40:15,510 --> 01:40:14,000
to walk into a bar and order a beer and

2578
01:40:15,910 --> 01:40:15,520
the bartender go oh my god you know

2579
01:40:17,910 --> 01:40:15,920
you're

2580
01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:17,920
mitchell i so believe in ufos you know

2581
01:40:21,590 --> 01:40:19,440
everywhere i go

2582
01:40:23,830 --> 01:40:21,600
um and i don't do a lot of public you

2583
01:40:24,870 --> 01:40:23,840
know so for people just to constantly

2584
01:40:27,750 --> 01:40:24,880
approach me

2585
01:40:29,590 --> 01:40:27,760
um on this means uh that there's so many

2586
01:40:31,270 --> 01:40:29,600
more people paying attention

2587
01:40:32,870 --> 01:40:31,280
so many people coming out of the closet

2588
01:40:34,709 --> 01:40:32,880
you know the wife's at work i'm gonna

2589
01:40:36,550 --> 01:40:34,719
watch 18 aliens because you know she

2590
01:40:39,669 --> 01:40:36,560
doesn't believe in that stuff

2591
01:40:41,350 --> 01:40:39,679
so um yeah it's it's opening up

2592
01:40:42,870 --> 01:40:41,360
faster than i thought it ever would i

2593
01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:42,880
mean there are so many people

2594
01:40:46,950 --> 01:40:45,360
interested in the subject and uh they

2595
01:40:47,830 --> 01:40:46,960
want to learn more but unfortunately

2596
01:40:50,790 --> 01:40:47,840
they're being uh

2597
01:40:52,390 --> 01:40:50,800
compiled into uh disinformation campaign

2598
01:40:54,870 --> 01:40:52,400
such as youtube and and

2599
01:40:56,229 --> 01:40:54,880
you know all other social media i don't

2600
01:40:57,510 --> 01:40:56,239
know who these people are i don't know

2601
01:41:00,149 --> 01:40:57,520
where they're from

2602
01:41:01,990 --> 01:41:00,159
i know a little bit about the technology

2603
01:41:03,430 --> 01:41:02,000
but they're not from here i can tell you

2604
01:41:05,510 --> 01:41:03,440
that right now but

2605
01:41:07,990 --> 01:41:05,520
i'm a civilian i'm not a part of the uh

2606
01:41:09,430 --> 01:41:08,000
the government or anything like that so

2607
01:41:11,350 --> 01:41:09,440
i guess we're gonna have to wait for

2608
01:41:14,950 --> 01:41:11,360
them to catch up with us

2609
01:41:18,229 --> 01:41:14,960
why do you think that the media was so

2610
01:41:21,350 --> 01:41:18,239
willing to use you know fear

2611
01:41:23,990 --> 01:41:21,360
and threat and the verbiage

2612
01:41:24,709 --> 01:41:24,000
uh which for for a couple of years

2613
01:41:27,750 --> 01:41:24,719
seemed to be

2614
01:41:30,550 --> 01:41:27,760
daily whether it was on television or

2615
01:41:30,950 --> 01:41:30,560
it was written in articles it was just

2616
01:41:36,950 --> 01:41:30,960
threat

2617
01:41:39,510 --> 01:41:36,960
where as far as i know none of our

2618
01:41:42,950 --> 01:41:39,520
planes were shot down

2619
01:41:43,430 --> 01:41:42,960
yeah yeah i don't uh i don't consider a

2620
01:41:45,430 --> 01:41:43,440
threat

2621
01:41:47,910 --> 01:41:45,440
and i'm a person with scars on my body

2622
01:41:50,709 --> 01:41:47,920
that can't be explained by surgeons

2623
01:41:51,270 --> 01:41:50,719
i've been through hell and i still don't

2624
01:41:56,870 --> 01:41:51,280
consider

2625
01:42:00,390 --> 01:41:56,880
it a threat in the wrong hands

2626
01:42:01,350 --> 01:42:00,400
uh like the media you know uh cove it's

2627
01:42:03,990 --> 01:42:01,360
definitely a threat

2628
01:42:05,590 --> 01:42:04,000
in the hands of the media uh project uh

2629
01:42:07,270 --> 01:42:05,600
you know mockingbird

2630
01:42:09,669 --> 01:42:07,280
uh certainly if you want to go back and

2631
01:42:12,470 --> 01:42:09,679
look on how it's controlled by the cia

2632
01:42:13,109 --> 01:42:12,480
information or you know points are are

2633
01:42:15,750 --> 01:42:13,119
bullets

2634
01:42:16,629 --> 01:42:15,760
in us in a quiet war in a consciousness

2635
01:42:19,030 --> 01:42:16,639
war

2636
01:42:20,790 --> 01:42:19,040
and um it's basic and simple you know

2637
01:42:24,709 --> 01:42:20,800
we've got a lot more evil out there

2638
01:42:26,629 --> 01:42:24,719
than we're willing to admit to ourselves

2639
01:42:28,310 --> 01:42:26,639
uh we're so trusting we're raised in

2640
01:42:31,750 --> 01:42:28,320
this system you know

2641
01:42:32,629 --> 01:42:31,760
so now has uh you mentioned kit green

2642
01:42:35,669 --> 01:42:32,639
you mentioned

2643
01:42:37,910 --> 01:42:35,679
ron pa pandolfi uh has

2644
01:42:39,669 --> 01:42:37,920
has kit reached out to you directly have

2645
01:42:41,510 --> 01:42:39,679
you spoken to him

2646
01:42:43,910 --> 01:42:41,520
no he didn't reach out to me directly at

2647
01:42:45,590 --> 01:42:43,920
all he just uh he reached out to harvard

2648
01:42:47,350 --> 01:42:45,600
you know bypassed me all together you

2649
01:42:49,510 --> 01:42:47,360
know i'm just a guy

2650
01:42:51,030 --> 01:42:49,520
giving information out and hoping that

2651
01:42:52,390 --> 01:42:51,040
um you know

2652
01:42:54,310 --> 01:42:52,400
there'd be some follow through with

2653
01:42:55,830 --> 01:42:54,320
harvard um

2654
01:42:57,510 --> 01:42:55,840
i wanted to make sure they had enough

2655
01:42:59,669 --> 01:42:57,520
information and by the way

2656
01:43:01,830 --> 01:42:59,679
you know these guys at harvard are so

2657
01:43:03,669 --> 01:43:01,840
smart

2658
01:43:05,350 --> 01:43:03,679
it just blew my mind it just blew my

2659
01:43:07,350 --> 01:43:05,360
mind not only did they take this

2660
01:43:10,709 --> 01:43:07,360
information in they assimilated it

2661
01:43:11,270 --> 01:43:10,719
greatly and they're ahead of the curve

2662
01:43:15,189 --> 01:43:11,280
now

2663
01:43:17,590 --> 01:43:15,199
before i can suggest that we do

2664
01:43:19,750 --> 01:43:17,600
something they've already been on it so

2665
01:43:21,510 --> 01:43:19,760
um they're excited to be funded there's

2666
01:43:22,550 --> 01:43:21,520
any millionaires billionaires out there

2667
01:43:25,910 --> 01:43:22,560
that want to see

2668
01:43:29,109 --> 01:43:25,920
this real proof you know this uh

2669
01:43:30,870 --> 01:43:29,119
this going on contact these guys and uh

2670
01:43:32,070 --> 01:43:30,880
um make some good in the world make some

2671
01:43:32,790 --> 01:43:32,080
change in the world i know there's

2672
01:43:34,390 --> 01:43:32,800
there's

2673
01:43:35,830 --> 01:43:34,400
literally millions of people here in

2674
01:43:37,910 --> 01:43:35,840
america that suffer

2675
01:43:40,149 --> 01:43:37,920
uh this their spouse doesn't know and

2676
01:43:42,390 --> 01:43:40,159
they share the same bed together

2677
01:43:43,750 --> 01:43:42,400
um you know their family doesn't know

2678
01:43:45,350 --> 01:43:43,760
they're cooped up inside

2679
01:43:47,189 --> 01:43:45,360
and uh once you let these brilliant

2680
01:43:49,350 --> 01:43:47,199
minds be who they are instead of

2681
01:43:51,109 --> 01:43:49,360
you know coop them keep them you know

2682
01:43:54,229 --> 01:43:51,119
cooped up in a society

2683
01:43:55,830 --> 01:43:54,239
um that really restrains who they are

2684
01:43:57,430 --> 01:43:55,840
uh they're gonna shine in ways that'll

2685
01:43:58,709 --> 01:43:57,440
just blow your mind i mean i work with

2686
01:44:01,750 --> 01:43:58,719
these guys on a

2687
01:44:03,030 --> 01:44:01,760
everyday basis and uh wow you want to

2688
01:44:05,750 --> 01:44:03,040
talk about um

2689
01:44:06,229 --> 01:44:05,760
you know highly empathic highly psychic

2690
01:44:09,430 --> 01:44:06,239
uh

2691
01:44:09,910 --> 01:44:09,440
loving individuals and um if we were you

2692
01:44:12,550 --> 01:44:09,920
know just

2693
01:44:14,070 --> 01:44:12,560
to let that spread uh it would be an

2694
01:44:17,510 --> 01:44:14,080
amazing side

2695
01:44:20,550 --> 01:44:17,520
now and what is that

2696
01:44:22,390 --> 01:44:20,560
are you guys i i want to hear in twitter

2697
01:44:24,390 --> 01:44:22,400
i want to see in twitter did you guys

2698
01:44:27,990 --> 01:44:24,400
hear that

2699
01:44:32,550 --> 01:44:30,229
this is getting strange yeah yeah that

2700
01:44:34,310 --> 01:44:32,560
was uh that was pretty weird

2701
01:44:36,830 --> 01:44:34,320
i'm going to listen to this show yeah

2702
01:44:40,550 --> 01:44:36,840
let's uh let's make a note that was at 8

2703
01:44:45,109 --> 01:44:40,560
41 at 8 41.

2704
01:44:48,790 --> 01:44:45,119
what was that crazy audio all right that

2705
01:44:52,629 --> 01:44:48,800
that was bizarre uh

2706
01:44:54,790 --> 01:44:52,639
staying on this uh the other messages

2707
01:44:57,750 --> 01:44:54,800
you mentioned mockingbird

2708
01:44:59,189 --> 01:44:57,760
you mentioned pandolfi and we can't get

2709
01:45:02,870 --> 01:44:59,199
away from

2710
01:45:05,910 --> 01:45:02,880
a ttsa semivan mellen

2711
01:45:10,229 --> 01:45:05,920
elizondo and the

2712
01:45:12,870 --> 01:45:10,239
the cia echelon that made up ttsa

2713
01:45:14,790 --> 01:45:12,880
with a very directed message going back

2714
01:45:19,030 --> 01:45:14,800
out into the media

2715
01:45:22,550 --> 01:45:19,040
and then ttsa crumbles after three years

2716
01:45:25,669 --> 01:45:22,560
uh i i what were your thoughts when you

2717
01:45:29,189 --> 01:45:25,679
started to see it fall apart

2718
01:45:32,149 --> 01:45:29,199
i don't know i well i do know um

2719
01:45:33,590 --> 01:45:32,159
i saw you i saw you smile right then see

2720
01:45:36,629 --> 01:45:33,600
the audience didn't see what i'm

2721
01:45:41,510 --> 01:45:39,109
well you know you try not to piss too

2722
01:45:45,030 --> 01:45:41,520
many people off but man i'm good at it

2723
01:45:45,430 --> 01:45:45,040
uh and you know i i think i'm a nice guy

2724
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:45,440
i just

2725
01:45:48,709 --> 01:45:47,280
you know i make people angry sometimes

2726
01:45:51,430 --> 01:45:48,719
but the truth is the truth

2727
01:45:52,390 --> 01:45:51,440
um i did get the original emails of

2728
01:45:56,149 --> 01:45:52,400
international

2729
01:45:59,189 --> 01:45:56,159
sciences

2730
01:46:02,950 --> 01:45:59,199
um that was uh i do apologize that was

2731
01:46:05,189 --> 01:46:02,960
friend request on my phone but um

2732
01:46:06,790 --> 01:46:05,199
that was a long before ttsa ever got

2733
01:46:09,270 --> 01:46:06,800
together it was long before luis

2734
01:46:12,629 --> 01:46:09,280
elizondo ever left it was long before

2735
01:46:15,750 --> 01:46:12,639
this whole ttsa got put together um

2736
01:46:17,109 --> 01:46:15,760
the entire disclosure email um you know

2737
01:46:20,229 --> 01:46:17,119
from joe

2738
01:46:21,430 --> 01:46:20,239
uh the whole working model uh was used

2739
01:46:25,030 --> 01:46:21,440
by all these guys

2740
01:46:27,669 --> 01:46:25,040
you know and so

2741
01:46:28,070 --> 01:46:27,679
take with that what you will but you

2742
01:46:31,030 --> 01:46:28,080
know

2743
01:46:33,030 --> 01:46:31,040
it started back in 1995. that's how far

2744
01:46:34,550 --> 01:46:33,040
back this goes that's how far back this

2745
01:46:37,590 --> 01:46:34,560
email goes so

2746
01:46:38,390 --> 01:46:37,600
um where are we duped a little bit i

2747
01:46:40,709 --> 01:46:38,400
believe so

2748
01:46:42,470 --> 01:46:40,719
you know i raised four kids i know when

2749
01:46:44,310 --> 01:46:42,480
one's been in the cookie jar

2750
01:46:45,910 --> 01:46:44,320
uh just by the way they back their eye

2751
01:46:49,510 --> 01:46:45,920
at me and for this to

2752
01:46:51,590 --> 01:46:49,520
come to fruition in 2017 and

2753
01:46:53,189 --> 01:46:51,600
rock star tom de long believes he put it

2754
01:46:54,149 --> 01:46:53,199
all together i was shaking my head the

2755
01:46:56,229 --> 01:46:54,159
whole time

2756
01:46:57,990 --> 01:46:56,239
um you know we have a saying in the

2757
01:47:00,870 --> 01:46:58,000
south bless is hard

2758
01:47:02,149 --> 01:47:00,880
um but uh i don't i don't know i mean

2759
01:47:04,229 --> 01:47:02,159
you know the guy was

2760
01:47:05,669 --> 01:47:04,239
knowledgeable about a lot of things uh

2761
01:47:08,470 --> 01:47:05,679
he had um

2762
01:47:09,830 --> 01:47:08,480
a crowd to speak to so they needed that

2763
01:47:12,950 --> 01:47:09,840
but i think

2764
01:47:16,070 --> 01:47:12,960
any organization um

2765
01:47:19,109 --> 01:47:16,080
that has an nda and can't really

2766
01:47:20,470 --> 01:47:19,119
give you any information whatsoever

2767
01:47:22,790 --> 01:47:20,480
shouldn't be in the public eye in the

2768
01:47:24,709 --> 01:47:22,800
first place i mean thank you guys for

2769
01:47:27,990 --> 01:47:24,719
your service and letting the

2770
01:47:29,350 --> 01:47:28,000
general public know that there are these

2771
01:47:33,510 --> 01:47:29,360
things in the sky

2772
01:47:36,149 --> 01:47:33,520
but um if you can't tell us anything

2773
01:47:36,550 --> 01:47:36,159
don't don't waste our time you know

2774
01:47:39,189 --> 01:47:36,560
don't

2775
01:47:40,790 --> 01:47:39,199
keep our attention all that time i saw a

2776
01:47:43,109 --> 01:47:40,800
horrible thing

2777
01:47:44,629 --> 01:47:43,119
on my way home driving yesterday where a

2778
01:47:46,310 --> 01:47:44,639
dog walked out in the middle of the road

2779
01:47:47,270 --> 01:47:46,320
he's looking at something across the

2780
01:47:49,270 --> 01:47:47,280
street

2781
01:47:50,950 --> 01:47:49,280
and the semi in front of me just plowed

2782
01:47:53,590 --> 01:47:50,960
him it was a terrible view

2783
01:47:55,669 --> 01:47:53,600
and it reminds me of how distracting

2784
01:47:58,149 --> 01:47:55,679
ufology can be because

2785
01:48:00,470 --> 01:47:58,159
um if you don't look to write a lot of

2786
01:48:04,310 --> 01:48:00,480
time in your life

2787
01:48:07,990 --> 01:48:04,320
the uh the other part about this

2788
01:48:11,270 --> 01:48:08,000
uh with ttsa were

2789
01:48:13,109 --> 01:48:11,280
those three videos now now one of them

2790
01:48:15,350 --> 01:48:13,119
had been out in the public domain since

2791
01:48:18,550 --> 01:48:15,360
2007 it wasn't released

2792
01:48:22,470 --> 01:48:18,560
by you know the navy um

2793
01:48:24,950 --> 01:48:22,480
but uh in those three videos

2794
01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:24,960
i see what i'm going to see others are

2795
01:48:30,550 --> 01:48:27,920
going to see what they are going to see

2796
01:48:33,910 --> 01:48:30,560
when you looked at those three videos

2797
01:48:39,270 --> 01:48:37,350
uh i tell you what i've i've i've had

2798
01:48:40,629 --> 01:48:39,280
pictures and videos sent to me from

2799
01:48:44,390 --> 01:48:40,639
people all over the world

2800
01:48:45,270 --> 01:48:44,400
uh by the hundreds and uh i've never had

2801
01:48:46,950 --> 01:48:45,280
a tic tac

2802
01:48:49,910 --> 01:48:46,960
ever reported to me i've never seen a

2803
01:48:52,870 --> 01:48:49,920
tic tac not to say that doesn't exist

2804
01:48:55,350 --> 01:48:52,880
um panda bears they existed they were

2805
01:48:57,669 --> 01:48:55,360
thought to be a myth for a long time

2806
01:49:00,149 --> 01:48:57,679
so maybe those things are out there but

2807
01:49:02,790 --> 01:49:00,159
to see these fears rotating and

2808
01:49:03,669 --> 01:49:02,800
moving at those speeds uh and banking at

2809
01:49:06,070 --> 01:49:03,679
those speeds

2810
01:49:07,990 --> 01:49:06,080
um yeah i'm very familiar with something

2811
01:49:11,189 --> 01:49:08,000
like that in my own yard

2812
01:49:12,790 --> 01:49:11,199
um i don't know you know it just seems

2813
01:49:14,629 --> 01:49:12,800
like we're being put through a show for

2814
01:49:17,189 --> 01:49:14,639
a particular reason you know uh

2815
01:49:17,830 --> 01:49:17,199
before you listen to an intelligence

2816
01:49:19,910 --> 01:49:17,840
officer

2817
01:49:21,510 --> 01:49:19,920
or a group of them you have to figure

2818
01:49:24,709 --> 01:49:21,520
out how they work i mean you know i

2819
01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:24,719
i texted or not text i sent an email to

2820
01:49:28,870 --> 01:49:26,159
lou and i said you know

2821
01:49:30,709 --> 01:49:28,880
back in 2013 there was a lot of military

2822
01:49:32,790 --> 01:49:30,719
activity around my home

2823
01:49:33,830 --> 01:49:32,800
uh are you aware of that activity and

2824
01:49:36,229 --> 01:49:33,840
lou sent me a

2825
01:49:38,149 --> 01:49:36,239
email back due to my nda i cannot

2826
01:49:39,910 --> 01:49:38,159
disclose any information that i may or

2827
01:49:42,790 --> 01:49:39,920
may not know about that

2828
01:49:44,550 --> 01:49:42,800
so in intelligent to the average person

2829
01:49:46,390 --> 01:49:44,560
they'd say well he you know he may not

2830
01:49:48,790 --> 01:49:46,400
know but to you and i we understand

2831
01:49:51,910 --> 01:49:48,800
intelligence talk that means yes i did

2832
01:49:54,070 --> 01:49:51,920
you know so um they have to dance around

2833
01:49:56,390 --> 01:49:54,080
it in order not to go to prison for um

2834
01:49:58,950 --> 01:49:56,400
giving away a state secret so

2835
01:50:00,870 --> 01:49:58,960
um you know i don't blame the guy but

2836
01:50:02,390 --> 01:50:00,880
you know he really has to figure out uh

2837
01:50:04,629 --> 01:50:02,400
what he can and can't say and if you

2838
01:50:05,510 --> 01:50:04,639
can't say anything then thank you for

2839
01:50:07,910 --> 01:50:05,520
your service

2840
01:50:08,950 --> 01:50:07,920
and um you've done a lot of great things

2841
01:50:11,830 --> 01:50:08,960
for a lot of people

2842
01:50:13,510 --> 01:50:11,840
especially uh civilians um that have

2843
01:50:14,709 --> 01:50:13,520
been left behind in this whole subject

2844
01:50:15,910 --> 01:50:14,719
you know you're gonna put these things

2845
01:50:17,589 --> 01:50:15,920
over the ocean

2846
01:50:20,070 --> 01:50:17,599
you're gonna put these things you know

2847
01:50:22,229 --> 01:50:20,080
in front of us only over the ocean

2848
01:50:23,270 --> 01:50:22,239
um which is an insult to millions of

2849
01:50:24,950 --> 01:50:23,280
american people

2850
01:50:26,870 --> 01:50:24,960
that have seen them over their homes

2851
01:50:29,910 --> 01:50:26,880
over their families

2852
01:50:32,310 --> 01:50:29,920
and completely destroyed the world view

2853
01:50:37,030 --> 01:50:35,430
yeah it's it's frustrating

2854
01:50:38,470 --> 01:50:37,040
it's really frustrating for them to come

2855
01:50:41,430 --> 01:50:38,480
out and say well it's only over the

2856
01:50:44,709 --> 01:50:41,440
ocean but you know here you go

2857
01:50:47,189 --> 01:50:44,719
the uh report the uap

2858
01:50:48,390 --> 01:50:47,199
task force report is due they're

2859
01:50:52,149 --> 01:50:48,400
starting to

2860
01:50:54,310 --> 01:50:52,159
chatter about what

2861
01:50:56,390 --> 01:50:54,320
may or may not be included in this

2862
01:50:59,830 --> 01:50:56,400
report i'm not going to get excited

2863
01:51:02,229 --> 01:50:59,840
or or be bummed out until it's released

2864
01:51:03,430 --> 01:51:02,239
but there's a lot of chatter now what do

2865
01:51:07,270 --> 01:51:03,440
you expect

2866
01:51:08,709 --> 01:51:07,280
in this report i i think like anybody

2867
01:51:09,990 --> 01:51:08,719
else that kind of follows this i don't

2868
01:51:13,589 --> 01:51:10,000
think we're going to get a whole lot

2869
01:51:14,709 --> 01:51:13,599
um you know jimmy i think you understand

2870
01:51:17,270 --> 01:51:14,719
this but maybe not

2871
01:51:18,229 --> 01:51:17,280
a lot of people understand um because

2872
01:51:21,510 --> 01:51:18,239
you've been through

2873
01:51:24,390 --> 01:51:21,520
that type of world change

2874
01:51:25,830 --> 01:51:24,400
the weakest link as far as a person out

2875
01:51:27,189 --> 01:51:25,840
there that's going to be affected by

2876
01:51:29,270 --> 01:51:27,199
understanding that

2877
01:51:31,589 --> 01:51:29,280
these things are here and they're not

2878
01:51:33,109 --> 01:51:31,599
from earth

2879
01:51:35,030 --> 01:51:33,119
they're going to go through their own

2880
01:51:37,589 --> 01:51:35,040
worldview change and and you know we've

2881
01:51:39,030 --> 01:51:37,599
got what 330 million americans here so

2882
01:51:42,149 --> 01:51:39,040
we have to do this

2883
01:51:43,589 --> 01:51:42,159
very slowly and very carefully um i do

2884
01:51:45,270 --> 01:51:43,599
understand them doing that

2885
01:51:46,790 --> 01:51:45,280
you know that i i understand why they

2886
01:51:48,709 --> 01:51:46,800
call it a weathering you know with

2887
01:51:50,629 --> 01:51:48,719
quotation marks because

2888
01:51:51,990 --> 01:51:50,639
it is dangerous it could hurt people

2889
01:51:55,030 --> 01:51:52,000
push him into drug

2890
01:51:56,390 --> 01:51:55,040
abuse or alcoholism or uh depression i

2891
01:51:57,589 --> 01:51:56,400
mean my gosh we're already in a

2892
01:52:01,030 --> 01:51:57,599
pandemic-ish

2893
01:52:04,149 --> 01:52:01,040
thing um whatever that is but um

2894
01:52:06,870 --> 01:52:04,159
yeah i mean why make it worse now but

2895
01:52:08,629 --> 01:52:06,880
yeah it's it's it's it hits home it

2896
01:52:10,070 --> 01:52:08,639
really hurts a person it really changes

2897
01:52:13,830 --> 01:52:10,080
a person's thought process

2898
01:52:15,910 --> 01:52:13,840
so um i think um

2899
01:52:18,070 --> 01:52:15,920
you know i hate to say it uh especially

2900
01:52:19,510 --> 01:52:18,080
for my own benefit but slower is best

2901
01:52:20,709 --> 01:52:19,520
you know just like free energy if we

2902
01:52:21,669 --> 01:52:20,719
were to come out with free energy

2903
01:52:24,550 --> 01:52:21,679
overnight

2904
01:52:26,149 --> 01:52:24,560
it would collapse everything and uh it

2905
01:52:28,229 --> 01:52:26,159
would be a huge mess

2906
01:52:30,229 --> 01:52:28,239
i want to see free energy tomorrow but i

2907
01:52:33,350 --> 01:52:30,239
don't want to see the impact

2908
01:52:36,790 --> 01:52:33,360
of overnight change uh in the economy

2909
01:52:40,070 --> 01:52:36,800
because who knows where it could lead

2910
01:52:43,189 --> 01:52:40,080
other than just a disaster

2911
01:52:45,910 --> 01:52:43,199
so with the with the after the pandemic

2912
01:52:47,510 --> 01:52:45,920
uh we're not we're not quite out of the

2913
01:52:50,149 --> 01:52:47,520
woods yet but

2914
01:52:50,709 --> 01:52:50,159
i think we're getting there but after

2915
01:52:53,350 --> 01:52:50,719
what

2916
01:52:53,830 --> 01:52:53,360
the world not the united states the

2917
01:52:57,830 --> 01:52:53,840
world

2918
01:53:00,629 --> 01:52:57,840
went through in the last 12 14 months

2919
01:53:01,910 --> 01:53:00,639
finding out that we're being visited by

2920
01:53:03,990 --> 01:53:01,920
e.t

2921
01:53:06,709 --> 01:53:04,000
i don't think that that's really a big

2922
01:53:09,270 --> 01:53:06,719
of that big of a deal

2923
01:53:09,750 --> 01:53:09,280
i hope you're right yeah i hope you're

2924
01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:09,760
right

2925
01:53:14,149 --> 01:53:10,960
well you know what i mean you know what

2926
01:53:16,070 --> 01:53:14,159
i'm saying right i mean what could be

2927
01:53:18,629 --> 01:53:16,080
what could freak people out at this

2928
01:53:20,310 --> 01:53:18,639
point i would say not much

2929
01:53:26,070 --> 01:53:20,320
you know jimmy i think we rush through

2930
01:53:30,390 --> 01:53:26,080
the murder horns a little bit too fast

2931
01:53:33,510 --> 01:53:32,229
a little bit longer but i mean they had

2932
01:53:36,070 --> 01:53:33,520
their wake of fame and

2933
01:53:38,070 --> 01:53:36,080
i mean just uh fear fear fear one after

2934
01:53:40,790 --> 01:53:38,080
the next i mean that's how it's done

2935
01:53:42,950 --> 01:53:40,800
um don't talk to the frontal cortex you

2936
01:53:44,550 --> 01:53:42,960
know talk to the medulla oblongata and

2937
01:53:46,149 --> 01:53:44,560
get that thing all upset because it

2938
01:53:48,870 --> 01:53:46,159
doesn't know what it's doing

2939
01:53:50,470 --> 01:53:48,880
um you know it's it's been that way for

2940
01:53:53,750 --> 01:53:50,480
for a long time you know but

2941
01:53:55,669 --> 01:53:53,760
uh do you think that we did go through a

2942
01:53:57,669 --> 01:53:55,679
mental beat down

2943
01:53:59,589 --> 01:53:57,679
leading up to the pandemic putting the

2944
01:54:02,470 --> 01:53:59,599
pandemic aside and everything that

2945
01:54:04,950 --> 01:54:02,480
happened in 2020 the riots and

2946
01:54:06,070 --> 01:54:04,960
every unemployment and economy and

2947
01:54:08,790 --> 01:54:06,080
lockdown and

2948
01:54:09,270 --> 01:54:08,800
and death and sickness and everything

2949
01:54:12,629 --> 01:54:09,280
that what

2950
01:54:15,350 --> 01:54:12,639
the election right and fake news and

2951
01:54:17,669 --> 01:54:15,360
everything that went down to 2020 what

2952
01:54:21,109 --> 01:54:17,679
led up to 2020 was pretty

2953
01:54:24,310 --> 01:54:21,119
nutso too as well huge headlines

2954
01:54:27,510 --> 01:54:24,320
craziness where we just got

2955
01:54:30,070 --> 01:54:27,520
mentally fatigued we got beat down by

2956
01:54:32,390 --> 01:54:30,080
the news and the media

2957
01:54:33,830 --> 01:54:32,400
absolutely absolutely you know my point

2958
01:54:35,750 --> 01:54:33,840
of view was kind of uh

2959
01:54:37,669 --> 01:54:35,760
maybe a little bit unique because i've

2960
01:54:39,990 --> 01:54:37,679
been on the road i've been chasing down

2961
01:54:41,990 --> 01:54:40,000
documents i've been meeting with people

2962
01:54:42,310 --> 01:54:42,000
i believe on boots on the ground instead

2963
01:54:44,550 --> 01:54:42,320
of

2964
01:54:45,990 --> 01:54:44,560
you know uh hear saying back and forth

2965
01:54:47,910 --> 01:54:46,000
so um

2966
01:54:49,430 --> 01:54:47,920
i wound up at my investigator's house

2967
01:54:50,709 --> 01:54:49,440
and he said hey how about we sit down

2968
01:54:52,229 --> 01:54:50,719
and watch some tv

2969
01:54:53,990 --> 01:54:52,239
and i said you know bear i haven't done

2970
01:54:55,910 --> 01:54:54,000
that in six years that sounds great you

2971
01:54:58,310 --> 01:54:55,920
know i sat in a nice comfy chair

2972
01:54:59,910 --> 01:54:58,320
and he turned this thing on and my spine

2973
01:55:01,430 --> 01:54:59,920
was straight almost immediately the

2974
01:55:03,910 --> 01:55:01,440
first thing i saw

2975
01:55:05,030 --> 01:55:03,920
was a commercial with a model in a

2976
01:55:08,390 --> 01:55:05,040
two-piece holding

2977
01:55:11,589 --> 01:55:08,400
a hamburger called a three-way burger

2978
01:55:13,510 --> 01:55:11,599
um i uh then saw

2979
01:55:15,109 --> 01:55:13,520
and i'm not kidding jimmy the next

2980
01:55:17,350 --> 01:55:15,119
commercial was naked

2981
01:55:19,109 --> 01:55:17,360
and afraid and i looked at barrett said

2982
01:55:21,109 --> 01:55:19,119
bear what the heck is this

2983
01:55:23,350 --> 01:55:21,119
and it's naked people running around in

2984
01:55:24,149 --> 01:55:23,360
the woods on on film and i'm thinking my

2985
01:55:26,229 --> 01:55:24,159
god you know

2986
01:55:28,149 --> 01:55:26,239
things have really changed so when the

2987
01:55:31,430 --> 01:55:28,159
news finally came on

2988
01:55:32,070 --> 01:55:31,440
i was so shocked to see how punchy and

2989
01:55:35,189 --> 01:55:32,080
pushy

2990
01:55:38,149 --> 01:55:35,199
and just overbearing uh

2991
01:55:40,550 --> 01:55:38,159
these news reporters were about my

2992
01:55:42,229 --> 01:55:40,560
belief system of a pandemic

2993
01:55:44,470 --> 01:55:42,239
like a good friend of mine said and you

2994
01:55:45,910 --> 01:55:44,480
know he works as a microbiologist he

2995
01:55:48,629 --> 01:55:45,920
said you know eric you don't

2996
01:55:50,390 --> 01:55:48,639
need a tv to tell you there's a pandemic

2997
01:55:55,830 --> 01:55:50,400
if there was a pandemic you'd know about

2998
01:56:01,669 --> 01:55:59,030
a three-way burger

2999
01:56:03,990 --> 01:56:01,679
stuck on the phone yeah live on live on

3000
01:56:07,270 --> 01:56:04,000
fade to black the three-way burger

3001
01:56:09,750 --> 01:56:07,280
now the uh

3002
01:56:10,950 --> 01:56:09,760
uh it's funny that you mentioned that

3003
01:56:14,149 --> 01:56:10,960
because

3004
01:56:17,910 --> 01:56:14,159
uh i'll i'll send it to you

3005
01:56:19,830 --> 01:56:17,920
uh i'll send it to you now

3006
01:56:21,830 --> 01:56:19,840
hold on you know what let's just do this

3007
01:56:25,830 --> 01:56:21,840
in real time i want you to

3008
01:56:30,950 --> 01:56:25,840
enjoy what i'm about to send to you

3009
01:56:33,430 --> 01:56:30,960
and uh check this out

3010
01:56:34,790 --> 01:56:33,440
see we can do this in real time i've got

3011
01:56:40,790 --> 01:56:34,800
eric's

3012
01:56:44,870 --> 01:56:43,750
your top top secret number is not stored

3013
01:56:48,950 --> 01:56:44,880
yet

3014
01:56:50,070 --> 01:56:48,960
i was going to okay i'll do this during

3015
01:56:53,830 --> 01:56:50,080
the break

3016
01:56:59,189 --> 01:56:53,840
i'm going to text you this picture of uh

3017
01:57:03,830 --> 01:57:01,910
yeah yeah i'll do it during the break

3018
01:57:07,430 --> 01:57:03,840
i'll take care of it during the break

3019
01:57:08,830 --> 01:57:07,440
now this is when we come back after the

3020
01:57:10,790 --> 01:57:08,840
break i want to talk about your new

3021
01:57:14,070 --> 01:57:10,800
documentary and

3022
01:57:17,669 --> 01:57:14,080
one of uh again the choices

3023
01:57:20,950 --> 01:57:17,679
that you have made is to uh

3024
01:57:22,149 --> 01:57:20,960
handle handle things yourself to do

3025
01:57:25,669 --> 01:57:22,159
things yourself

3026
01:57:28,070 --> 01:57:25,679
and not allow uh networks and

3027
01:57:29,589 --> 01:57:28,080
executives and others to make decisions

3028
01:57:32,629 --> 01:57:29,599
for you

3029
01:57:34,629 --> 01:57:32,639
right yeah that's correct i'm not going

3030
01:57:37,589 --> 01:57:34,639
to put out a number there but

3031
01:57:38,790 --> 01:57:37,599
i did not sell my integrity for a very

3032
01:57:41,830 --> 01:57:38,800
large amount of money

3033
01:57:43,350 --> 01:57:41,840
so yeah yeah do it yourself that way

3034
01:57:45,189 --> 01:57:43,360
i mean you know travis taught me a lot

3035
01:57:46,790 --> 01:57:45,199
when it came to that i saw the suffering

3036
01:57:48,149 --> 01:57:46,800
in his eyes you know i can see the

3037
01:57:50,070 --> 01:57:48,159
frustration

3038
01:57:51,990 --> 01:57:50,080
um you know with what happened to him

3039
01:57:54,310 --> 01:57:52,000
the allagash twins as well they got

3040
01:57:55,510 --> 01:57:54,320
put through the ringer um they still

3041
01:57:57,750 --> 01:57:55,520
suffer today

3042
01:57:59,430 --> 01:57:57,760
uh from you know how the public treated

3043
01:58:00,950 --> 01:57:59,440
them and how television and the book

3044
01:58:04,470 --> 01:58:00,960
industry treated them

3045
01:58:06,070 --> 01:58:04,480
uh so yeah i just i i don't need that

3046
01:58:09,510 --> 01:58:06,080
i've been through enough you know so

3047
01:58:11,589 --> 01:58:09,520
um yeah i could be just

3048
01:58:13,510 --> 01:58:11,599
throw my stuff in in a closet somewhere

3049
01:58:15,350 --> 01:58:13,520
and walk away i can't do that

3050
01:58:17,030 --> 01:58:15,360
you know the public needs help and they

3051
01:58:21,669 --> 01:58:17,040
need to know what's going on

3052
01:58:24,790 --> 01:58:21,679
they have to and one of the things that

3053
01:58:27,589 --> 01:58:24,800
uh we are allowed to do today

3054
01:58:29,430 --> 01:58:27,599
is we don't have to answer to the

3055
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networks anymore

3056
01:58:32,550 --> 01:58:32,159
if you have something important to say

3057
01:58:43,430 --> 01:58:32,560
you

3058
01:58:44,390 --> 01:58:43,440
and and take take the effectiveness away

3059
01:58:47,030 --> 01:58:44,400
from you

3060
01:58:48,790 --> 01:58:47,040
you can go and do things yourself now

3061
01:58:50,870 --> 01:58:48,800
and there are ways to go

3062
01:58:52,070 --> 01:58:50,880
and get it done and that is something

3063
01:58:55,270 --> 01:58:52,080
that the man

3064
01:58:56,629 --> 01:58:55,280
has never had to deal with before right

3065
01:58:58,550 --> 01:58:56,639
and this was difficult

3066
01:59:00,550 --> 01:58:58,560
i mean you had to publish your own

3067
01:59:02,629 --> 01:59:00,560
magazine what you had to build your own

3068
01:59:04,310 --> 01:59:02,639
radio station with radio towers

3069
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you had to buy your own tv cameras you

3070
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had to get fcc licenses

3071
01:59:12,229 --> 01:59:09,520
and permits and and an investment and

3072
01:59:13,830 --> 01:59:12,239
millions of dollars and all no it's not

3073
01:59:16,390 --> 01:59:13,840
that kind of party now

3074
01:59:18,390 --> 01:59:16,400
you are able to go and assemble your own

3075
01:59:21,669 --> 01:59:18,400
team and get it done yourself

3076
01:59:23,589 --> 01:59:21,679
your way that's correct

3077
01:59:25,270 --> 01:59:23,599
that's correct it's so much easier now i

3078
01:59:28,790 --> 01:59:25,280
mean look at woodstock

3079
01:59:30,310 --> 01:59:28,800
just people that love music you know

3080
01:59:32,390 --> 01:59:30,320
we're able to pull this off through

3081
01:59:33,030 --> 01:59:32,400
newspapers you know and just imagine how

3082
01:59:35,030 --> 01:59:33,040
powerful

3083
01:59:36,070 --> 01:59:35,040
that would be if we had social media and

3084
01:59:38,390 --> 01:59:36,080
radio outlets

3085
01:59:39,189 --> 01:59:38,400
you know such as yourself uh you know i

3086
01:59:41,669 --> 01:59:39,199
often uh

3087
01:59:43,350 --> 01:59:41,679
talk about a experiencer's woodstock

3088
01:59:43,990 --> 01:59:43,360
that should happen someday and i i

3089
01:59:45,669 --> 01:59:44,000
believe it will

3090
01:59:47,750 --> 01:59:45,679
i believe a lot of us should show up in

3091
01:59:49,750 --> 01:59:47,760
one spot and have a good time

3092
01:59:51,589 --> 01:59:49,760
this is fade to black i am your host

3093
01:59:52,390 --> 01:59:51,599
jimmy church our guest tonight eric

3094
01:59:53,910 --> 01:59:52,400
mitchell

3095
01:59:55,510 --> 01:59:53,920
we're going to take a quick break right

3096
01:59:57,830 --> 01:59:55,520
here and when we come back we're going

3097
02:00:00,070 --> 01:59:57,840
to talk about his new documentary

3098
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this is fade to black on the game

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we'll be right back after this short

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questions right here for eric and

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twitter

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i'll get to all of those when we come

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3180
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this is fade to black with jimmy church

3186
02:03:58,550 --> 02:03:46,639
on the game changer radio network

3187
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3188
02:04:09,510 --> 02:04:07,830
welcome back fade to block i am your

3189
02:04:13,030 --> 02:04:09,520
host jimmy church tonight eric

3190
02:04:14,470 --> 02:04:13,040
mitchell is here for the first time what

3191
02:04:16,069 --> 02:04:14,480
a great conversation

3192
02:04:17,990 --> 02:04:16,079
tonight i want to remind everybody

3193
02:04:19,990 --> 02:04:18,000
tomorrow night is the return of terry

3194
02:04:21,430 --> 02:04:20,000
lovelace and of course thursday night is

3195
02:04:23,589 --> 02:04:21,440
another fader night

3196
02:04:24,870 --> 02:04:23,599
on fade to black with open lines all

3197
02:04:27,589 --> 02:04:24,880
night long eric

3198
02:04:28,470 --> 02:04:27,599
one night i'm gonna talk you into uh

3199
02:04:30,149 --> 02:04:28,480
coming in

3200
02:04:31,990 --> 02:04:30,159
and manning the phones with me and

3201
02:04:33,189 --> 02:04:32,000
taking calls all night could you handle

3202
02:04:34,950 --> 02:04:33,199
that

3203
02:04:36,950 --> 02:04:34,960
uh it's pretty much what i do at home

3204
02:04:38,390 --> 02:04:36,960
anyway

3205
02:04:40,550 --> 02:04:38,400
yeah that would be a great night that

3206
02:04:41,990 --> 02:04:40,560
would be a great night and uh i would

3207
02:04:44,470 --> 02:04:42,000
look forward to that

3208
02:04:45,350 --> 02:04:44,480
um before we get to the documentary uh

3209
02:04:48,550 --> 02:04:45,360
there's a few

3210
02:04:49,430 --> 02:04:48,560
uh questions here in twitter and going

3211
02:04:52,470 --> 02:04:49,440
back to

3212
02:04:55,830 --> 02:04:52,480
uh the colonel um

3213
02:04:58,229 --> 02:04:55,840
uh kim says what would

3214
02:04:59,910 --> 02:04:58,239
a lieutenant colonel be doing stalking

3215
02:05:03,270 --> 02:04:59,920
around a trailer park

3216
02:05:05,270 --> 02:05:03,280
right that's uh that's uh that's an

3217
02:05:07,910 --> 02:05:05,280
honest question did you ever get to the

3218
02:05:10,149 --> 02:05:07,920
bottom of uh colonel wood

3219
02:05:10,950 --> 02:05:10,159
uh yeah yeah i did that's how i found

3220
02:05:14,390 --> 02:05:10,960
out about uh

3221
02:05:17,109 --> 02:05:14,400
atip asap the phenomenology desk uh

3222
02:05:18,069 --> 02:05:17,119
all of that i mean one night uh we were

3223
02:05:20,149 --> 02:05:18,079
bellied up to my

3224
02:05:21,430 --> 02:05:20,159
my car and we were looking at this

3225
02:05:23,350 --> 02:05:21,440
object uh

3226
02:05:25,350 --> 02:05:23,360
just it was below the tree line i mean i

3227
02:05:26,950 --> 02:05:25,360
could have taken my my shoe off and

3228
02:05:28,069 --> 02:05:26,960
thrown it and hit this object so

3229
02:05:30,149 --> 02:05:28,079
naturally

3230
02:05:32,470 --> 02:05:30,159
we're frozen we're not moving uh

3231
02:05:34,950 --> 02:05:32,480
helicopter came from behind us

3232
02:05:37,270 --> 02:05:34,960
dipped down below the power lines the

3233
02:05:38,470 --> 02:05:37,280
object immediately took off the opposite

3234
02:05:41,830 --> 02:05:38,480
direction

3235
02:05:43,430 --> 02:05:41,840
um the helicopter spotlighted us

3236
02:05:45,350 --> 02:05:43,440
it had no markings but i can tell you it

3237
02:05:47,910 --> 02:05:45,360
was a blackhawk helicopter

3238
02:05:48,550 --> 02:05:47,920
uh what would a blackhawk helicopter be

3239
02:05:51,109 --> 02:05:48,560
doing in

3240
02:05:52,069 --> 02:05:51,119
quote-unquote trailer park i don't know

3241
02:05:53,669 --> 02:05:52,079
um but he

3242
02:05:55,430 --> 02:05:53,679
spotlighted the rest of the neighborhood

3243
02:05:57,189 --> 02:05:55,440
raised up turn around and left it was

3244
02:05:57,990 --> 02:05:57,199
that time i told my daughter go in the

3245
02:06:00,069 --> 02:05:58,000
house

3246
02:06:01,510 --> 02:06:00,079
brew some coffee the military's gonna be

3247
02:06:02,470 --> 02:06:01,520
here right because that's how it's

3248
02:06:05,109 --> 02:06:02,480
supposed to work

3249
02:06:06,310 --> 02:06:05,119
but um you know that's that's one thing

3250
02:06:07,990 --> 02:06:06,320
people really need to know

3251
02:06:10,229 --> 02:06:08,000
that's not how it works they don't show

3252
02:06:12,310 --> 02:06:10,239
up in a bunch of black suvs

3253
02:06:13,350 --> 02:06:12,320
um they follow you from a distance what

3254
02:06:16,390 --> 02:06:13,360
they do is they pull

3255
02:06:18,470 --> 02:06:16,400
a domestic intelligence report that

3256
02:06:21,830 --> 02:06:18,480
means it legalizes them

3257
02:06:24,470 --> 02:06:21,840
to stalk you and pretty much

3258
02:06:27,430 --> 02:06:24,480
you know an abolished patriot act they

3259
02:06:30,870 --> 02:06:27,440
can they can do whatever they want

3260
02:06:34,950 --> 02:06:30,880
did you get the image i texted you

3261
02:06:38,310 --> 02:06:34,960
i did now did that make you hungry

3262
02:06:41,270 --> 02:06:38,320
no it made me want to get a salad

3263
02:06:43,669 --> 02:06:41,280
that's terrible oh man and you know

3264
02:06:46,709 --> 02:06:43,679
that's southern california for you

3265
02:06:49,030 --> 02:06:46,719
right now i know right

3266
02:06:50,550 --> 02:06:49,040
yeah i don't know i i might be going

3267
02:06:54,870 --> 02:06:50,560
there tonight after the show

3268
02:06:57,750 --> 02:06:54,880
i i i don't know just to just

3269
02:06:58,310 --> 02:06:57,760
get the salad you know we are so we are

3270
02:07:02,790 --> 02:06:58,320
so

3271
02:07:04,709 --> 02:07:02,800
that uh i don't think a whole lot of

3272
02:07:06,629 --> 02:07:04,719
uh most of our lives have anything to do

3273
02:07:08,629 --> 02:07:06,639
with reality you know we're told what to

3274
02:07:10,229 --> 02:07:08,639
do what to buy what to think who to

3275
02:07:12,950 --> 02:07:10,239
judge what to wear

3276
02:07:14,629 --> 02:07:12,960
and um you know i think you know being

3277
02:07:15,830 --> 02:07:14,639
pulled out of this world view you get to

3278
02:07:17,910 --> 02:07:15,840
see that

3279
02:07:19,030 --> 02:07:17,920
on an everyday basis and somehow have to

3280
02:07:20,709 --> 02:07:19,040
hide it while you're

3281
02:07:23,189 --> 02:07:20,719
doing your everyday thing without a

3282
02:07:25,669 --> 02:07:23,199
fanny pack and a 23 inch

3283
02:07:26,550 --> 02:07:25,679
23 percent interest card on your uh your

3284
02:07:28,790 --> 02:07:26,560
credit uh

3285
02:07:30,149 --> 02:07:28,800
you know cards so yeah it's a it's a

3286
02:07:30,629 --> 02:07:30,159
different world when you get pulled out

3287
02:07:32,870 --> 02:07:30,639
but yes

3288
02:07:34,870 --> 02:07:32,880
looking at something like that i gotta

3289
02:07:37,430 --> 02:07:34,880
go do some sit-ups after the show

3290
02:07:38,069 --> 02:07:37,440
yeah you know i got to uh i've got to

3291
02:07:41,430 --> 02:07:38,079
channel my

3292
02:07:44,629 --> 02:07:41,440
inner anaconda and

3293
02:07:47,669 --> 02:07:44,639
see this is the thing um i

3294
02:07:50,709 --> 02:07:47,679
i behave myself

3295
02:07:53,350 --> 02:07:50,719
most of the time i do and i'm not young

3296
02:07:57,669 --> 02:07:53,360
anymore i'm much older than you are

3297
02:08:00,550 --> 02:07:57,679
um i'm not young anymore but i do behave

3298
02:08:02,149 --> 02:08:00,560
right i do i i honestly do i don't do

3299
02:08:05,510 --> 02:08:02,159
sodas i don't do this i don't do

3300
02:08:09,109 --> 02:08:05,520
anything that was fun uh before

3301
02:08:12,069 --> 02:08:09,119
and easy is not easy these days but

3302
02:08:13,189 --> 02:08:12,079
once in a while i'd like to be a rebel

3303
02:08:17,270 --> 02:08:13,199
and just

3304
02:08:20,310 --> 02:08:17,280
out and do something wrong and feel

3305
02:08:22,550 --> 02:08:20,320
guilty about it absolutely

3306
02:08:25,830 --> 02:08:22,560
yeah yeah so i'm gonna go get that

3307
02:08:28,229 --> 02:08:25,840
grilled cheese double cheeseburger

3308
02:08:29,830 --> 02:08:28,239
i mean who does who does a double

3309
02:08:31,270 --> 02:08:29,840
cheeseburger with the grilled cheese

3310
02:08:34,310 --> 02:08:31,280
sandwich

3311
02:08:37,669 --> 02:08:34,320
for the top you know what what is

3312
02:08:39,669 --> 02:08:37,679
going on i don't know i would have to

3313
02:08:41,350 --> 02:08:39,679
learn how to unhinge my jaw to eat

3314
02:08:51,510 --> 02:08:41,360
something that's right and smoke a lot

3315
02:08:55,270 --> 02:08:51,520
of weed

3316
02:08:58,550 --> 02:08:55,280
hey hey this whole country it pots legal

3317
02:09:00,550 --> 02:08:58,560
yeah that's uh um and uh

3318
02:09:03,109 --> 02:09:00,560
you're not that much younger than me you

3319
02:09:06,470 --> 02:09:03,119
know we went through the repression

3320
02:09:09,750 --> 02:09:06,480
of of of all of this and uh

3321
02:09:13,109 --> 02:09:09,760
to live in a country now that has uh

3322
02:09:14,229 --> 02:09:13,119
legal pot stores is it legal in arkansas

3323
02:09:17,189 --> 02:09:14,239
yet

3324
02:09:19,910 --> 02:09:17,199
uh only medical but when i lived i think

3325
02:09:22,069 --> 02:09:19,920
it was 2018 i lived in las vegas

3326
02:09:23,510 --> 02:09:22,079
um a lady i was dating at the time me

3327
02:09:26,870 --> 02:09:23,520
and her went into course

3328
02:09:28,069 --> 02:09:26,880
sure and we we both took uh i think two

3329
02:09:31,030 --> 02:09:28,079
puffs each

3330
02:09:32,069 --> 02:09:31,040
and let me disclaimer here i am from hot

3331
02:09:34,870 --> 02:09:32,079
springs arkansas

3332
02:09:36,229 --> 02:09:34,880
this is where bill clinton came from and

3333
02:09:39,750 --> 02:09:36,239
i did inhale

3334
02:09:43,510 --> 02:09:39,760
you did you did okay now isn't that i

3335
02:09:44,950 --> 02:09:43,520
i talked about this uh when when pot was

3336
02:09:47,990 --> 02:09:44,960
legalized here

3337
02:09:49,430 --> 02:09:48,000
in southern in california dispensaries

3338
02:09:51,430 --> 02:09:49,440
opened up overnight

3339
02:09:52,709 --> 02:09:51,440
and i don't smoke okay all right

3340
02:09:56,310 --> 02:09:52,719
disclaimer i i

3341
02:10:00,470 --> 02:09:56,320
i don't smoke i've smoked my share

3342
02:10:03,109 --> 02:10:00,480
okay i'm not some i'm not a lamb but

3343
02:10:04,629 --> 02:10:03,119
i said to rita i said let's go to a pot

3344
02:10:08,069 --> 02:10:04,639
store

3345
02:10:11,189 --> 02:10:08,079
let's go to a monster and we walked in

3346
02:10:12,870 --> 02:10:11,199
and to see everything there i felt like

3347
02:10:15,910 --> 02:10:12,880
i was breaking the law

3348
02:10:17,350 --> 02:10:15,920
and i literally i said okay we're going

3349
02:10:19,270 --> 02:10:17,360
to buy some of that some of that

3350
02:10:20,629 --> 02:10:19,280
some of that some of that bag it up

3351
02:10:22,470 --> 02:10:20,639
let's go

3352
02:10:24,069 --> 02:10:22,480
they put it in the prescription bag

3353
02:10:26,790 --> 02:10:24,079
which is really good you know if

3354
02:10:27,189 --> 02:10:26,800
it's anyway we go out and we get in the

3355
02:10:30,229 --> 02:10:27,199
car

3356
02:10:31,990 --> 02:10:30,239
it's on the front seat and now i don't

3357
02:10:33,750 --> 02:10:32,000
see any police

3358
02:10:37,189 --> 02:10:33,760
right there's no cop there's i want to

3359
02:10:39,910 --> 02:10:37,199
get pulled over pull me over

3360
02:10:41,589 --> 02:10:39,920
it was so funny because you know what it

3361
02:10:43,990 --> 02:10:41,599
was like in the old days

3362
02:10:46,069 --> 02:10:44,000
right a little bit of weed in the car

3363
02:10:48,550 --> 02:10:46,079
you're looking for police everywhere and

3364
02:10:50,870 --> 02:10:48,560
as a matter of fact you had a cop behind

3365
02:10:53,589 --> 02:10:50,880
you just to freak you out

3366
02:10:54,790 --> 02:10:53,599
almost every yeah yeah every time and we

3367
02:10:58,550 --> 02:10:54,800
drove straight home

3368
02:11:01,430 --> 02:10:58,560
and and it's the most freeing

3369
02:11:02,229 --> 02:11:01,440
thing uh so cool i love going to pot

3370
02:11:04,870 --> 02:11:02,239
stores man

3371
02:11:07,030 --> 02:11:04,880
it's uh it's definitely uh i think it

3372
02:11:11,030 --> 02:11:07,040
was called uh luke skywalker

3373
02:11:14,229 --> 02:11:11,040
and uh i immediately went into the most

3374
02:11:15,189 --> 02:11:14,239
uh severe philosophical conversation of

3375
02:11:17,109 --> 02:11:15,199
my life

3376
02:11:19,189 --> 02:11:17,119
with myself by the way because nobody

3377
02:11:22,830 --> 02:11:19,199
else understood a word i was saying

3378
02:11:25,910 --> 02:11:22,840
and i woke up with a um a chocolate oreo

3379
02:11:29,109 --> 02:11:25,920
ring uh crusted around my lips

3380
02:11:31,830 --> 02:11:29,119
um you know it was just uh yeah i didn't

3381
02:11:34,310 --> 02:11:31,840
look too great the next day but uh

3382
02:11:35,830 --> 02:11:34,320
it was it was interesting stuff it's not

3383
02:11:38,310 --> 02:11:35,840
like uh when we were kids

3384
02:11:40,470 --> 02:11:38,320
no it's a it's a it's a brand new day

3385
02:11:43,910 --> 02:11:40,480
it's a brand new day including

3386
02:11:46,870 --> 02:11:43,920
uh your documentary great segway

3387
02:11:48,629 --> 02:11:46,880
in that yeah uh the documentary this is

3388
02:11:52,470 --> 02:11:48,639
a way for you

3389
02:11:55,910 --> 02:11:52,480
to to free yourself to to do this

3390
02:11:58,470 --> 02:11:55,920
your way what's the message how are you

3391
02:12:01,669 --> 02:11:58,480
approaching this

3392
02:12:04,149 --> 02:12:01,679
well um i got with a a

3393
02:12:06,069 --> 02:12:04,159
group of amazing guys they uh do a

3394
02:12:07,510 --> 02:12:06,079
podcast called ufo garage

3395
02:12:09,109 --> 02:12:07,520
they've always wanted to get into you

3396
02:12:11,510 --> 02:12:09,119
know some kind of film

3397
02:12:13,109 --> 02:12:11,520
they've been in you know uh just

3398
02:12:14,950 --> 02:12:13,119
studying all of this stuff ever since

3399
02:12:16,470 --> 02:12:14,960
they were kids so they're really excited

3400
02:12:17,669 --> 02:12:16,480
and uh they're honest people they're

3401
02:12:19,589 --> 02:12:17,679
great people

3402
02:12:20,950 --> 02:12:19,599
and um you don't see that a lot out

3403
02:12:23,189 --> 02:12:20,960
there you know traveling and

3404
02:12:24,870 --> 02:12:23,199
everybody wants to grab a piece of you

3405
02:12:26,470 --> 02:12:24,880
the moment you have uh you know

3406
02:12:28,790 --> 02:12:26,480
experiences so

3407
02:12:30,310 --> 02:12:28,800
uh these people are very humbled amazing

3408
02:12:34,229 --> 02:12:30,320
they got a great director

3409
02:12:35,669 --> 02:12:34,239
and um man so far it's great but um

3410
02:12:37,350 --> 02:12:35,679
what they want to do is pretty much

3411
02:12:40,550 --> 02:12:37,360
encapsulate

3412
02:12:41,830 --> 02:12:40,560
you know a timeline of everything that

3413
02:12:45,270 --> 02:12:41,840
happened to me

3414
02:12:47,270 --> 02:12:45,280
uh how i reacted to it all and

3415
02:12:49,189 --> 02:12:47,280
you know my biggest part is to try to

3416
02:12:49,910 --> 02:12:49,199
show how many of us are actually out

3417
02:12:52,950 --> 02:12:49,920
there

3418
02:12:56,149 --> 02:12:52,960
uh the quintessential experiencer the

3419
02:12:58,069 --> 02:12:56,159
um catapultament and basal ganglia

3420
02:12:59,430 --> 02:12:58,079
area of the brain that is prevalent with

3421
02:13:02,390 --> 02:12:59,440
us and uh

3422
02:13:04,709 --> 02:13:02,400
try to dive as deep as possible into the

3423
02:13:05,189 --> 02:13:04,719
psychology and sociology the whole thing

3424
02:13:07,030 --> 02:13:05,199
i mean

3425
02:13:08,790 --> 02:13:07,040
right now i have 32 clients that are

3426
02:13:10,149 --> 02:13:08,800
psychiatrists

3427
02:13:11,589 --> 02:13:10,159
they don't know how to deal with the

3428
02:13:12,629 --> 02:13:11,599
process they're going through it's not

3429
02:13:14,229 --> 02:13:12,639
written in the books

3430
02:13:17,030 --> 02:13:14,239
i mean jimmy it's not written the book

3431
02:13:17,830 --> 02:13:17,040
so some psychiatrists get a hold of me

3432
02:13:20,229 --> 02:13:17,840
because

3433
02:13:21,430 --> 02:13:20,239
they have so many patients talking about

3434
02:13:22,629 --> 02:13:21,440
the same thing and they don't know how

3435
02:13:24,310 --> 02:13:22,639
to deal with it you know

3436
02:13:26,390 --> 02:13:24,320
they say well it's obviously not a

3437
02:13:26,950 --> 02:13:26,400
delusion of grandeur it's not this it's

3438
02:13:29,109 --> 02:13:26,960
not that

3439
02:13:31,350 --> 02:13:29,119
how do i how do i deal with my uh my

3440
02:13:32,550 --> 02:13:31,360
purse and i don't have a phd in this

3441
02:13:35,430 --> 02:13:32,560
nobody does but

3442
02:13:37,430 --> 02:13:35,440
uh i i can definitely say i think i

3443
02:13:39,910 --> 02:13:37,440
spend a lot more time than uh

3444
02:13:41,430 --> 02:13:39,920
even the self-proclaimed experts do and

3445
02:13:45,270 --> 02:13:41,440
i dive deeper into that

3446
02:13:48,229 --> 02:13:45,280
um you know once uh trust is established

3447
02:13:49,910 --> 02:13:48,239
now how do you how do you speak to

3448
02:13:53,030 --> 02:13:49,920
everybody

3449
02:13:56,069 --> 02:13:53,040
right you have to now you've got to

3450
02:13:59,510 --> 02:13:56,079
not necessarily generalize but you can't

3451
02:14:00,229 --> 02:13:59,520
talk above people you can't talk below

3452
02:14:02,950 --> 02:14:00,239
everybody

3453
02:14:04,470 --> 02:14:02,960
how do you how do you how do you get

3454
02:14:07,910 --> 02:14:04,480
this to the widest audience

3455
02:14:09,350 --> 02:14:07,920
how do you approach it oh that's a good

3456
02:14:11,990 --> 02:14:09,360
question i mean which part

3457
02:14:14,069 --> 02:14:12,000
um you know you don't want to talk to

3458
02:14:14,470 --> 02:14:14,079
the general public about quantum physics

3459
02:14:17,830 --> 02:14:14,480
so

3460
02:14:18,149 --> 02:14:17,840
naturally you want to uh i don't want to

3461
02:14:20,390 --> 02:14:18,159
say

3462
02:14:22,229 --> 02:14:20,400
dumbed down but um talk about it in a

3463
02:14:24,229 --> 02:14:22,239
way that people will understand

3464
02:14:25,430 --> 02:14:24,239
uh that's going to be a difficult part

3465
02:14:27,270 --> 02:14:25,440
um

3466
02:14:28,950 --> 02:14:27,280
you know uh just how you and i started

3467
02:14:30,470 --> 02:14:28,960
out the show about my

3468
02:14:31,830 --> 02:14:30,480
experiences there were a lot more

3469
02:14:35,189 --> 02:14:31,840
there's no way we can cover all that in

3470
02:14:38,870 --> 02:14:37,910
but uh you know yeah put it out there

3471
02:14:41,910 --> 02:14:38,880
the best we can

3472
02:14:44,069 --> 02:14:41,920
actual video i don't want to get anybody

3473
02:14:45,510 --> 02:14:44,079
too excited with videos and pictures and

3474
02:14:47,510 --> 02:14:45,520
anything like that because

3475
02:14:48,870 --> 02:14:47,520
uh low visibility is what they talk

3476
02:14:51,430 --> 02:14:48,880
about from uh you know

3477
02:14:53,669 --> 02:14:51,440
a tip uh it's a it's a thing you know

3478
02:14:55,350 --> 02:14:53,679
you see this orange sphere that's blurry

3479
02:14:56,709 --> 02:14:55,360
to your own vision a camera is not going

3480
02:14:58,149 --> 02:14:56,719
to help

3481
02:14:59,750 --> 02:14:58,159
i think with people that come out with

3482
02:15:02,709 --> 02:14:59,760
crystal clear pictures

3483
02:15:04,629 --> 02:15:02,719
i have a little answering to do but yeah

3484
02:15:08,390 --> 02:15:04,639
i think

3485
02:15:10,950 --> 02:15:08,400
it will um

3486
02:15:11,430 --> 02:15:10,960
entertaining even though it is the truth

3487
02:15:12,870 --> 02:15:11,440
um

3488
02:15:14,629 --> 02:15:12,880
you know i i don't like to do public

3489
02:15:16,390 --> 02:15:14,639
speaking because you know people elbow

3490
02:15:18,149 --> 02:15:16,400
each other and go oh this is my favorite

3491
02:15:19,910 --> 02:15:18,159
part you know i actually walked off on

3492
02:15:21,510 --> 02:15:19,920
stage one time because

3493
02:15:23,430 --> 02:15:21,520
i didn't want to be an entertainer look

3494
02:15:24,390 --> 02:15:23,440
you know my life was destroyed i went

3495
02:15:27,109 --> 02:15:24,400
through

3496
02:15:29,830 --> 02:15:27,119
um a hell that i can't even articulate

3497
02:15:32,069 --> 02:15:29,840
and trying to on film right now so

3498
02:15:35,669 --> 02:15:32,079
um yeah i just think it's it's going to

3499
02:15:37,910 --> 02:15:35,679
be well put together i mean the director

3500
02:15:39,990 --> 02:15:37,920
a step ahead and on point all the time

3501
02:15:42,950 --> 02:15:40,000
and uh he's got a great vision

3502
02:15:44,149 --> 02:15:42,960
uh for what's going on here and um uh

3503
02:15:45,990 --> 02:15:44,159
it's gonna be great

3504
02:15:47,510 --> 02:15:46,000
uh shameless plug i've never done it

3505
02:15:48,550 --> 02:15:47,520
before because i've never had anything

3506
02:15:51,350 --> 02:15:48,560
to offer

3507
02:15:51,750 --> 02:15:51,360
uh on a radio show but uh yeah i think

3508
02:15:53,030 --> 02:15:51,760
uh

3509
02:15:54,950 --> 02:15:53,040
i've seen a lot of them out there and

3510
02:15:59,109 --> 02:15:54,960
this is gonna be a good one well i've

3511
02:16:01,669 --> 02:15:59,119
i i saw the set the set looks great and

3512
02:16:03,430 --> 02:16:01,679
that's gonna that's gonna look uh that's

3513
02:16:05,589 --> 02:16:03,440
gonna shoot really well

3514
02:16:07,030 --> 02:16:05,599
but uh and you mentioned video are you

3515
02:16:10,790 --> 02:16:07,040
gonna incorporate

3516
02:16:12,870 --> 02:16:10,800
um animation and illustrations

3517
02:16:14,790 --> 02:16:12,880
we have been talking about that even

3518
02:16:17,750 --> 02:16:14,800
though jimmy you know i don't feel too

3519
02:16:18,870 --> 02:16:17,760
great about it i'd rather just use the

3520
02:16:22,709 --> 02:16:18,880
actual footage

3521
02:16:24,950 --> 02:16:22,719
and um you know let people

3522
02:16:26,470 --> 02:16:24,960
um you know make their own opinion about

3523
02:16:28,229 --> 02:16:26,480
those things you know there's

3524
02:16:30,310 --> 02:16:28,239
gonna be skeptics you know this kind of

3525
02:16:32,870 --> 02:16:30,320
thing gets attacked all the time

3526
02:16:34,469 --> 02:16:32,880
and uh you know when my personal proof

3527
02:16:37,589 --> 02:16:34,479
cannot be unproven my

3528
02:16:38,790 --> 02:16:37,599
my personal you know uh my integrity

3529
02:16:40,629 --> 02:16:38,800
gets intact so

3530
02:16:42,230 --> 02:16:40,639
it's just gonna happen no matter what

3531
02:16:43,190 --> 02:16:42,240
and you know the people that need to see

3532
02:16:45,669 --> 02:16:43,200
this

3533
02:16:47,030 --> 02:16:45,679
um are going to and i'm gonna feel way

3534
02:16:49,110 --> 02:16:47,040
better about my life

3535
02:16:51,270 --> 02:16:49,120
knowing that that's out there and if

3536
02:16:53,349 --> 02:16:51,280
anything were to happen to me

3537
02:16:55,110 --> 02:16:53,359
at least the information can be obtained

3538
02:16:58,549 --> 02:16:55,120
and i can sleep better at night

3539
02:17:01,910 --> 02:16:58,559
are you bringing in other experiencers

3540
02:17:04,709 --> 02:17:01,920
i want to i wanna i wanna do

3541
02:17:06,629 --> 02:17:04,719
maybe a thousand i think i think zoom

3542
02:17:08,070 --> 02:17:06,639
only does up to a thousand people at a

3543
02:17:11,429 --> 02:17:08,080
time so i'm gonna have to do

3544
02:17:13,509 --> 02:17:11,439
just a maybe a zoom meeting hit record

3545
02:17:14,950 --> 02:17:13,519
and uh put that in there to show all of

3546
02:17:16,549 --> 02:17:14,960
us in there i mean you've got terry

3547
02:17:19,190 --> 02:17:16,559
lovelace tomorrow

3548
02:17:19,750 --> 02:17:19,200
um he'll probably be on there excellent

3549
02:17:22,309 --> 02:17:19,760
guy

3550
02:17:23,190 --> 02:17:22,319
um you know his experiences are just

3551
02:17:26,389 --> 02:17:23,200
intriguing

3552
02:17:29,030 --> 02:17:26,399
i've got him in one of my private groups

3553
02:17:29,589 --> 02:17:29,040
and always enjoy talking to him um yeah

3554
02:17:33,190 --> 02:17:29,599
i didn't

3555
02:17:35,270 --> 02:17:33,200
hey

3556
02:17:37,509 --> 02:17:35,280
look us experiencers we're not

3557
02:17:41,190 --> 02:17:37,519
advertising but we're meeting each other

3558
02:17:43,110 --> 02:17:41,200
all over the world um i i had no idea uh

3559
02:17:44,709 --> 02:17:43,120
that you had experiences yourself so i'm

3560
02:17:45,669 --> 02:17:44,719
gonna have to add you into a private

3561
02:17:48,469 --> 02:17:45,679
group of uh

3562
02:17:49,509 --> 02:17:48,479
you know a few hundred or so so you can

3563
02:17:51,429 --> 02:17:49,519
kind of

3564
02:17:52,870 --> 02:17:51,439
meet other people that haven't spoken a

3565
02:17:53,270 --> 02:17:52,880
word about it in their whole life you

3566
02:17:57,190 --> 02:17:53,280
know

3567
02:17:59,830 --> 02:17:57,200
that have

3568
02:18:01,589 --> 02:17:59,840
just had an experience they're suicidal

3569
02:18:03,669 --> 02:18:01,599
they're really upset

3570
02:18:05,429 --> 02:18:03,679
uh but we have a lot of other people

3571
02:18:06,549 --> 02:18:05,439
that have overcome a lot of things and

3572
02:18:08,790 --> 02:18:06,559
they're gaining a voice and they're

3573
02:18:10,950 --> 02:18:08,800
getting stronger you know and uh

3574
02:18:13,589 --> 02:18:10,960
once we all do you're gonna hear all

3575
02:18:15,509 --> 02:18:13,599
about us you know it's a it's not a cult

3576
02:18:17,509 --> 02:18:15,519
or a clan or anything like that

3577
02:18:18,950 --> 02:18:17,519
it's people helping each other through

3578
02:18:22,150 --> 02:18:18,960
something that society

3579
02:18:22,870 --> 02:18:22,160
can't um can't really even look at right

3580
02:18:28,950 --> 02:18:22,880
now

3581
02:18:31,030 --> 02:18:28,960
all together instead of me working 24 7

3582
02:18:32,629 --> 02:18:31,040
it eases up a lot of pressure on me as

3583
02:18:35,110 --> 02:18:32,639
well and it shows

3584
02:18:37,110 --> 02:18:35,120
a lot of greatness in these people yeah

3585
02:18:40,990 --> 02:18:37,120
i don't know if i would

3586
02:18:45,509 --> 02:18:41,000
uh classify myself as an

3587
02:18:48,230 --> 02:18:45,519
experiencer but there's something

3588
02:18:49,990 --> 02:18:48,240
very interesting that i have observed

3589
02:18:52,790 --> 02:18:50,000
about my life

3590
02:18:53,429 --> 02:18:52,800
which is that i have been at the right

3591
02:18:56,230 --> 02:18:53,439
place

3592
02:18:57,509 --> 02:18:56,240
at the right time to see some crazy

3593
02:19:00,070 --> 02:18:57,519
stuff

3594
02:19:01,030 --> 02:19:00,080
way too many times that i then i can

3595
02:19:02,950 --> 02:19:01,040
count

3596
02:19:04,070 --> 02:19:02,960
you know with friends with witnesses and

3597
02:19:07,150 --> 02:19:04,080
we're all together

3598
02:19:09,190 --> 02:19:07,160
and then something absolutely

3599
02:19:11,910 --> 02:19:09,200
extraordinary happens

3600
02:19:13,429 --> 02:19:11,920
and i can't explain that i don't know if

3601
02:19:17,429 --> 02:19:13,439
it's me

3602
02:19:18,950 --> 02:19:17,439
if it's uh the group if it's the mood

3603
02:19:20,709 --> 02:19:18,960
if it's you know where we are

3604
02:19:23,270 --> 02:19:20,719
emotionally at that moment

3605
02:19:24,950 --> 02:19:23,280
i'm not sure but there have been some

3606
02:19:28,150 --> 02:19:24,960
crazy things that have gone

3607
02:19:30,309 --> 02:19:28,160
down with me and i doesn't

3608
02:19:32,309 --> 02:19:30,319
doesn't that make you want to look into

3609
02:19:32,790 --> 02:19:32,319
quantum decisions what are these quantum

3610
02:19:35,270 --> 02:19:32,800
and

3611
02:19:37,190 --> 02:19:35,280
you know entangled pieces automatically

3612
02:19:39,349 --> 02:19:37,200
make decisions without even uh

3613
02:19:40,629 --> 02:19:39,359
consulting anything else you know the

3614
02:19:42,790 --> 02:19:40,639
smaller pieces uh

3615
02:19:44,230 --> 02:19:42,800
that build up all of life and all of

3616
02:19:46,469 --> 02:19:44,240
matter and everything they

3617
02:19:47,990 --> 02:19:46,479
uh seem to make decisions all the time

3618
02:19:50,710 --> 02:19:48,000
and you know aren't we made of that

3619
02:19:52,550 --> 02:19:50,720
stuff so it is intriguing how it seems

3620
02:19:55,750 --> 02:19:52,560
like someone's writing the script

3621
02:19:58,870 --> 02:19:55,760
um and you don't know what's going on i

3622
02:20:00,389 --> 02:19:58,880
i you're 100 correct and i've always

3623
02:20:04,469 --> 02:20:00,399
considered

3624
02:20:07,670 --> 02:20:04,479
the locality non-locality entanglement

3625
02:20:09,349 --> 02:20:07,680
uh uh you know down to the quantum level

3626
02:20:11,910 --> 02:20:09,359
aspect of all of this something that i

3627
02:20:14,309 --> 02:20:11,920
would have never never considered before

3628
02:20:15,510 --> 02:20:14,319
and i think the majority of the ufo

3629
02:20:18,710 --> 02:20:15,520
community

3630
02:20:21,070 --> 02:20:18,720
uh today understand so much more than

3631
02:20:23,429 --> 02:20:21,080
they did in 1970 about the phenomena in

3632
02:20:25,910 --> 02:20:23,439
1965 in 1960

3633
02:20:26,469 --> 02:20:25,920
when it was you know flying saucers from

3634
02:20:30,070 --> 02:20:26,479
venus

3635
02:20:33,590 --> 02:20:30,080
you know here too uh uh you know

3636
02:20:36,870 --> 02:20:33,600
take us on joy rides on ships um

3637
02:20:38,710 --> 02:20:36,880
and it it was such an innocent way of

3638
02:20:41,750 --> 02:20:38,720
looking at all of this

3639
02:20:45,030 --> 02:20:41,760
and where we are today in 2021

3640
02:20:47,670 --> 02:20:45,040
with understanding uh what is going on

3641
02:20:49,670 --> 02:20:47,680
i absolutely think that there is uh

3642
02:20:52,070 --> 02:20:49,680
something at the quantum level i i

3643
02:20:53,190 --> 02:20:52,080
really do i think the universe just is

3644
02:20:55,030 --> 02:20:53,200
that way

3645
02:20:56,950 --> 02:20:55,040
and we're just now starting to figure it

3646
02:20:58,870 --> 02:20:56,960
out yeah i mean

3647
02:21:00,550 --> 02:20:58,880
you know we talked about every hundred

3648
02:21:02,469 --> 02:21:00,560
years we think we're at the

3649
02:21:04,070 --> 02:21:02,479
pinnacle of human understanding but the

3650
02:21:05,510 --> 02:21:04,080
next hundred years think about the last

3651
02:21:06,469 --> 02:21:05,520
hundred years we went from force and

3652
02:21:08,790 --> 02:21:06,479
buggy

3653
02:21:09,510 --> 02:21:08,800
to you know having computers in our

3654
02:21:11,429 --> 02:21:09,520
pockets

3655
02:21:12,870 --> 02:21:11,439
you know let's not bring up the fact

3656
02:21:14,230 --> 02:21:12,880
that they need a finger to check your

3657
02:21:15,750 --> 02:21:14,240
prostate i mean i don't know where we

3658
02:21:18,230 --> 02:21:15,760
were lost at that one but

3659
02:21:19,110 --> 02:21:18,240
that's got to change too but a little

3660
02:21:21,670 --> 02:21:19,120
joke there but

3661
02:21:22,550 --> 02:21:21,680
the next hundred years um once we

3662
02:21:24,870 --> 02:21:22,560
understand

3663
02:21:26,230 --> 02:21:24,880
the quantum a lot better we won't even

3664
02:21:29,429 --> 02:21:26,240
recognize today

3665
02:21:31,270 --> 02:21:29,439
i mean we just literally won't um talk

3666
02:21:33,750 --> 02:21:31,280
about predictive science uh

3667
02:21:35,349 --> 02:21:33,760
you know you can literally predict how

3668
02:21:37,110 --> 02:21:35,359
reality is going to change all the time

3669
02:21:38,469 --> 02:21:37,120
instead of being a victim to uh

3670
02:21:40,070 --> 02:21:38,479
whoever's writing the script in the

3671
02:21:42,230 --> 02:21:40,080
first place

3672
02:21:44,950 --> 02:21:42,240
hey and one of the best points that i

3673
02:21:48,950 --> 02:21:44,960
think we can always drive home

3674
02:21:52,710 --> 02:21:48,960
and and absorb this thought

3675
02:21:56,710 --> 02:21:52,720
in 68 years

3676
02:22:00,070 --> 02:21:56,720
from 1900 1900

3677
02:22:03,510 --> 02:22:00,080
where uh no electricity no stereo

3678
02:22:09,030 --> 02:22:03,520
nothing nothing going on 1900

3679
02:22:12,070 --> 02:22:09,040
horse and buggy 1900 68 years later

3680
02:22:16,070 --> 02:22:12,080
jimi hendrix yeah

3681
02:22:19,349 --> 02:22:16,080
holy crap right i mean yeah think about

3682
02:22:21,349 --> 02:22:19,359
that well you know jimmy talked about

3683
02:22:22,550 --> 02:22:21,359
uh you know the people from mars you

3684
02:22:24,950 --> 02:22:22,560
know you certainly did

3685
02:22:26,870 --> 02:22:24,960
yeah you and all that stuff matter of

3686
02:22:30,150 --> 02:22:26,880
fact grant cameron wrote

3687
02:22:30,710 --> 02:22:30,160
um a book on so many famous musicians

3688
02:22:32,870 --> 02:22:30,720
that

3689
02:22:33,750 --> 02:22:32,880
kind of download this you know and you

3690
02:22:36,150 --> 02:22:33,760
know as far as

3691
02:22:37,429 --> 02:22:36,160
us talking about the the caudate basal

3692
02:22:39,510 --> 02:22:37,439
ganglia

3693
02:22:41,750 --> 02:22:39,520
antenna reaching out and pulling in an

3694
02:22:44,309 --> 02:22:41,760
information somehow in some way

3695
02:22:45,670 --> 02:22:44,319
possibly quantum entanglement uh look at

3696
02:22:48,309 --> 02:22:45,680
nikola tesla

3697
02:22:49,190 --> 02:22:48,319
he would sit with uh two uh bells in his

3698
02:22:51,510 --> 02:22:49,200
hand in a chair

3699
02:22:52,710 --> 02:22:51,520
and when he'd fall asleep the ball would

3700
02:22:54,469 --> 02:22:52,720
fall out of his hand

3701
02:22:56,870 --> 02:22:54,479
hit the ground and the first part of the

3702
02:22:58,389 --> 02:22:56,880
brain that wakes up is that area

3703
02:23:00,309 --> 02:22:58,399
and he claimed that you know the people

3704
02:23:01,349 --> 02:23:00,319
from mars gave him a lot of inventions

3705
02:23:03,190 --> 02:23:01,359
too

3706
02:23:04,550 --> 02:23:03,200
einstein's thought experiments always

3707
02:23:06,150 --> 02:23:04,560
pulled him into the right right

3708
02:23:09,190 --> 02:23:06,160
hemisphere of the brain

3709
02:23:10,389 --> 02:23:09,200
they did slices on that so you know look

3710
02:23:13,510 --> 02:23:10,399
at marconi

3711
02:23:15,590 --> 02:23:13,520
if you look at history a lot of these

3712
02:23:17,590 --> 02:23:15,600
inventions seem to come

3713
02:23:19,590 --> 02:23:17,600
from these people that understood as

3714
02:23:21,830 --> 02:23:19,600
soon as i wake up i'm most creative

3715
02:23:23,990 --> 02:23:21,840
as soon as i do this i'm most creative

3716
02:23:26,070 --> 02:23:24,000
so they idolize that part of their brain

3717
02:23:27,750 --> 02:23:26,080
and of course you're going to enlarge it

3718
02:23:30,710 --> 02:23:27,760
over time with

3719
02:23:31,590 --> 02:23:30,720
habitary neural synopsis and and you're

3720
02:23:33,510 --> 02:23:31,600
going to uh

3721
02:23:35,270 --> 02:23:33,520
tap into that you know it's funny how

3722
02:23:35,910 --> 02:23:35,280
religion teaches us that left-handed

3723
02:23:38,230 --> 02:23:35,920
people are

3724
02:23:38,950 --> 02:23:38,240
are the devil um at least when we were

3725
02:23:40,710 --> 02:23:38,960
kids

3726
02:23:42,550 --> 02:23:40,720
and um taught to write with our right

3727
02:23:44,070 --> 02:23:42,560
hand especially catholic churches

3728
02:23:45,990 --> 02:23:44,080
because the right brain

3729
02:23:48,309 --> 02:23:46,000
you know was connected to the left arm

3730
02:23:49,750 --> 02:23:48,319
which is revered as the devil and all

3731
02:23:51,910 --> 02:23:49,760
that stuff so

3732
02:23:53,190 --> 02:23:51,920
um i can ramble on about all that but

3733
02:23:54,710 --> 02:23:53,200
you know i think that's

3734
02:23:57,349 --> 02:23:54,720
some things that people might want to

3735
02:24:01,510 --> 02:23:57,359
look into especially ancient history

3736
02:24:05,349 --> 02:24:01,520
and with um this advancement

3737
02:24:05,670 --> 02:24:05,359
that the ufo community has made and i

3738
02:24:10,150 --> 02:24:05,680
mean

3739
02:24:11,670 --> 02:24:10,160
i i think since uh 2000 1995 2000 where

3740
02:24:15,270 --> 02:24:11,680
we are today

3741
02:24:19,910 --> 02:24:15,280
uh huge steps but

3742
02:24:22,710 --> 02:24:19,920
i'm a little bit confused about

3743
02:24:24,710 --> 02:24:22,720
the nuts and bolts aspect which you

3744
02:24:28,070 --> 02:24:24,720
brought up at the front of the show

3745
02:24:31,590 --> 02:24:28,080
are we looking at craft that have

3746
02:24:34,870 --> 02:24:31,600
traveled for 10 000 light years

3747
02:24:38,309 --> 02:24:34,880
or are we looking at craft that

3748
02:24:40,950 --> 02:24:38,319
just arrives right just arrives

3749
02:24:42,550 --> 02:24:40,960
from wherever in the milky way or the

3750
02:24:45,590 --> 02:24:42,560
universe

3751
02:24:48,870 --> 02:24:45,600
it's just here there

3752
02:24:51,910 --> 02:24:48,880
isn't these vast distances that are

3753
02:24:53,429 --> 02:24:51,920
traveled and i've made this transition

3754
02:24:55,510 --> 02:24:53,439
in my mind

3755
02:24:58,150 --> 02:24:55,520
that there there's got to be something

3756
02:25:02,469 --> 02:24:58,160
easy for them to do it's not a 10

3757
02:25:07,190 --> 02:25:02,479
000 light year trip in a generational

3758
02:25:09,270 --> 02:25:07,200
spaceship right for them it's easy

3759
02:25:11,270 --> 02:25:09,280
no it's got to be easy i mean in the

3760
02:25:13,750 --> 02:25:11,280
quantum world i mean if you think about

3761
02:25:19,190 --> 02:25:13,760
it you being this amazing being

3762
02:25:22,790 --> 02:25:19,200
um you know you by being this organism

3763
02:25:25,910 --> 02:25:22,800
call into being light heaviness hardness

3764
02:25:27,030 --> 02:25:25,920
um everything uh without the observer

3765
02:25:30,630 --> 02:25:27,040
nothing wouldn't

3766
02:25:32,309 --> 02:25:30,640
exist whatsoever um so there's a lot of

3767
02:25:33,429 --> 02:25:32,319
power in that there's a lot of power in

3768
02:25:37,030 --> 02:25:33,439
consciousness

3769
02:25:40,790 --> 02:25:37,040
existence would not exist if you were to

3770
02:25:42,870 --> 02:25:40,800
stare at a particle it'll remain solid

3771
02:25:45,990 --> 02:25:42,880
and keep the camera on it and you got to

3772
02:25:49,670 --> 02:25:46,000
launch the particle becomes a waveform

3773
02:25:52,230 --> 02:25:49,680
um so the confines of reality are barely

3774
02:25:53,670 --> 02:25:52,240
scratched by us banging our chests

3775
02:25:55,429 --> 02:25:53,680
uh these guys are getting here and

3776
02:25:57,110 --> 02:25:55,439
they're doing it really quick

3777
02:25:59,030 --> 02:25:57,120
they're doing it immediate they're doing

3778
02:26:00,550 --> 02:25:59,040
it fast i've seen these things disappear

3779
02:26:04,230 --> 02:26:00,560
and reappear in different

3780
02:26:06,630 --> 02:26:04,240
spots um you know what i have observed

3781
02:26:07,990 --> 02:26:06,640
just with my own eyes these things are

3782
02:26:10,550 --> 02:26:08,000
not linear

3783
02:26:12,469 --> 02:26:10,560
whatsoever it's it's it's one of the

3784
02:26:16,469 --> 02:26:12,479
most interesting concepts of

3785
02:26:18,710 --> 02:26:16,479
all and when we get into uh ufos and et

3786
02:26:21,190 --> 02:26:18,720
and contact and intelligence

3787
02:26:22,389 --> 02:26:21,200
uh what we are actually observing

3788
02:26:25,030 --> 02:26:22,399
because

3789
02:26:26,550 --> 02:26:25,040
a physicist and a quantum physicist is

3790
02:26:30,150 --> 02:26:26,560
going to tell you

3791
02:26:32,309 --> 02:26:30,160
that a particle is a wave and

3792
02:26:33,670 --> 02:26:32,319
when you are observing it you are seeing

3793
02:26:37,270 --> 02:26:33,680
one thing

3794
02:26:40,309 --> 02:26:37,280
you take your eyes off of it and and it

3795
02:26:42,070 --> 02:26:40,319
it changes now wait a minute wait a

3796
02:26:45,270 --> 02:26:42,080
minute here

3797
02:26:47,990 --> 02:26:45,280
that is way out science fiction but

3798
02:26:48,950 --> 02:26:48,000
this is the science that they are

3799
02:26:52,309 --> 02:26:48,960
studying

3800
02:26:53,990 --> 02:26:52,319
and want us to understand that

3801
02:26:56,150 --> 02:26:54,000
well wait a minute then what about

3802
02:26:57,670 --> 02:26:56,160
bigfoot right you don't want to talk to

3803
02:26:59,429 --> 02:26:57,680
me about bigfoot you don't want to talk

3804
02:27:01,110 --> 02:26:59,439
to me about e.t

3805
02:27:03,429 --> 02:27:01,120
this is uh you don't want to talk to me

3806
02:27:06,790 --> 02:27:03,439
about life after death or consciousness

3807
02:27:10,150 --> 02:27:06,800
but yet you want me to believe that

3808
02:27:13,110 --> 02:27:10,160
nothing happens until it is observed

3809
02:27:15,110 --> 02:27:13,120
and looked at come on man you can't have

3810
02:27:16,630 --> 02:27:15,120
it both ways can you

3811
02:27:18,550 --> 02:27:16,640
yeah well i mean you know a lot of

3812
02:27:20,870 --> 02:27:18,560
top-notch researchers have been around

3813
02:27:22,950 --> 02:27:20,880
boots on the ground 40-50 years they'll

3814
02:27:25,190 --> 02:27:22,960
sit around and say all these subjects

3815
02:27:27,270 --> 02:27:25,200
are somehow related and when i look at

3816
02:27:28,630 --> 02:27:27,280
them and i say the electromagnetic field

3817
02:27:30,469 --> 02:27:28,640
they just

3818
02:27:32,070 --> 02:27:30,479
their jaw hits the floor because they

3819
02:27:34,630 --> 02:27:32,080
get it you know if

3820
02:27:37,030 --> 02:27:34,640
if the experiencer if the the

3821
02:27:40,309 --> 02:27:37,040
quintessential experiencer's brain

3822
02:27:43,110 --> 02:27:40,319
is trying to uh beat

3823
02:27:44,950 --> 02:27:43,120
this antenna and you have a craft and

3824
02:27:47,510 --> 02:27:44,960
its surface area is made

3825
02:27:48,550 --> 02:27:47,520
out of that same stuff neural synopsis

3826
02:27:52,309 --> 02:27:48,560
and you have

3827
02:27:54,070 --> 02:27:52,319
non-local microtubules in your own brain

3828
02:27:56,309 --> 02:27:54,080
and this connection can happen at a

3829
02:27:59,270 --> 02:27:56,319
distance

3830
02:28:01,190 --> 02:27:59,280
travel and these are facts by the way

3831
02:28:03,270 --> 02:28:01,200
travel would be

3832
02:28:04,630 --> 02:28:03,280
somehow through consciousness um you

3833
02:28:06,950 --> 02:28:04,640
know so

3834
02:28:08,790 --> 02:28:06,960
and not at the speed of light but at the

3835
02:28:13,190 --> 02:28:08,800
speed of now

3836
02:28:16,150 --> 02:28:13,200
and and communication

3837
02:28:17,590 --> 02:28:16,160
would happen the same way well we're

3838
02:28:19,670 --> 02:28:17,600
already finding that out with quantum

3839
02:28:21,110 --> 02:28:19,680
computers we can do it now from here to

3840
02:28:24,070 --> 02:28:21,120
china

3841
02:28:26,950 --> 02:28:24,080
immediately with quantum computers now

3842
02:28:28,790 --> 02:28:26,960
so if we can send information that way

3843
02:28:29,990 --> 02:28:28,800
it's just a matter of time before we can

3844
02:28:31,750 --> 02:28:30,000
send um

3845
02:28:33,590 --> 02:28:31,760
you know an object that way as well i

3846
02:28:35,590 --> 02:28:33,600
mean there's plenty of

3847
02:28:38,070 --> 02:28:35,600
teleportation things that we've done in

3848
02:28:40,710 --> 02:28:38,080
australia uh moving a marble through a

3849
02:28:42,309 --> 02:28:40,720
wall and things of that nature but

3850
02:28:44,389 --> 02:28:42,319
this is the science of it this is what

3851
02:28:45,030 --> 02:28:44,399
ben rich was talking about all things in

3852
02:28:46,710 --> 02:28:45,040
space

3853
02:28:49,110 --> 02:28:46,720
and time are connected it's all one

3854
02:28:50,710 --> 02:28:49,120
thing uh robert schroedinger the number

3855
02:28:52,710 --> 02:28:50,720
of all minds are one

3856
02:28:54,309 --> 02:28:52,720
um you know people out of body

3857
02:28:56,790 --> 02:28:54,319
experiences where they

3858
02:28:59,590 --> 02:28:56,800
take off very far very quickly it's not

3859
02:29:02,710 --> 02:28:59,600
noted a whole lot but it is noted

3860
02:29:04,150 --> 02:29:02,720
so it it's just a matter of time and i

3861
02:29:06,389 --> 02:29:04,160
think that was you know the most

3862
02:29:08,710 --> 02:29:06,399
important move i can personally make

3863
02:29:09,910 --> 02:29:08,720
is get stanford and harvard together and

3864
02:29:12,710 --> 02:29:09,920
i'm looking at a

3865
02:29:14,070 --> 02:29:12,720
couple of other major universities that

3866
02:29:16,309 --> 02:29:14,080
might want to get involved

3867
02:29:18,309 --> 02:29:16,319
and go ahead and nail this thing down

3868
02:29:21,750 --> 02:29:18,319
because it's just been too long

3869
02:29:22,150 --> 02:29:21,760
um you know my major uh outlook is not

3870
02:29:23,910 --> 02:29:22,160
really

3871
02:29:25,349 --> 02:29:23,920
you know the military the government yes

3872
02:29:28,469 --> 02:29:25,359
i do pay attention

3873
02:29:29,190 --> 02:29:28,479
um but the civilians themselves are are

3874
02:29:31,110 --> 02:29:29,200
the real

3875
02:29:32,309 --> 02:29:31,120
uh treasurer when it comes to this whole

3876
02:29:36,230 --> 02:29:32,319
thing

3877
02:29:36,790 --> 02:29:36,240
now uh we are coming up to a break eric

3878
02:29:39,990 --> 02:29:36,800
i'm gonna

3879
02:29:42,710 --> 02:29:40,000
ask you to stay on with us for one more

3880
02:29:45,110 --> 02:29:42,720
segment can we do some overtime

3881
02:29:47,190 --> 02:29:45,120
that's what i'm talking about man no

3882
02:29:50,469 --> 02:29:47,200
listen when we come back

3883
02:29:53,030 --> 02:29:50,479
we didn't talk about disclosure

3884
02:29:54,230 --> 02:29:53,040
so i want to loosen up a little bit have

3885
02:29:56,790 --> 02:29:54,240
some fun

3886
02:29:57,750 --> 02:29:56,800
and and talk about disclosure and where

3887
02:30:00,950 --> 02:29:57,760
we are today

3888
02:30:04,550 --> 02:30:00,960
are you are you game sure i'm no expert

3889
02:30:07,830 --> 02:30:04,560
but um

3890
02:30:09,510 --> 02:30:07,840
our guest tonight eric mitchell i

3891
02:30:11,349 --> 02:30:09,520
am your host jimmy church we're going to

3892
02:30:12,870 --> 02:30:11,359
come back after this short break we're

3893
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going to go into overtime

3894
02:30:17,030 --> 02:30:14,800
we've got to go into the d word

3895
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disclosure and where we are today i'm

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your host jimmy church

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this is fade to black and the game

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welcome back paid to block i'm your host

3982
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3983
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under my wheels ah there we go

3984
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fade to black our guest tonight is eric

3985
02:34:44,389 --> 02:34:40,800
mitchell and

3986
02:34:46,230 --> 02:34:44,399
we are going into overtime folks and

3987
02:34:48,389 --> 02:34:46,240
uh the phone lines have been ringing but

3988
02:34:50,230 --> 02:34:48,399
i am ignoring them

3989
02:34:51,990 --> 02:34:50,240
because we're just going to have a

3990
02:34:55,429 --> 02:34:52,000
conversation and

3991
02:34:58,070 --> 02:34:55,439
now eric i want to start here something

3992
02:35:00,070 --> 02:34:58,080
simple what's your definition of

3993
02:35:03,030 --> 02:35:00,080
disclosure

3994
02:35:04,550 --> 02:35:03,040
oh man gosh i've always enjoyed hearing

3995
02:35:06,870 --> 02:35:04,560
somebody else talk about it

3996
02:35:08,950 --> 02:35:06,880
and tell you the truth you know the

3997
02:35:10,230 --> 02:35:08,960
little disclosure big disclosure my

3998
02:35:12,950 --> 02:35:10,240
definition

3999
02:35:13,910 --> 02:35:12,960
or maybe a uh more of a thought process

4000
02:35:16,150 --> 02:35:13,920
is um

4001
02:35:18,150 --> 02:35:16,160
you know a football it thing gets tossed

4002
02:35:19,110 --> 02:35:18,160
around it gets fumbled it gets thrown

4003
02:35:21,110 --> 02:35:19,120
back

4004
02:35:22,469 --> 02:35:21,120
uh there's little touchdowns here and

4005
02:35:25,349 --> 02:35:22,479
there um

4006
02:35:27,349 --> 02:35:25,359
it's a very important ball and um

4007
02:35:29,349 --> 02:35:27,359
there's no definitive way to talk about

4008
02:35:31,590 --> 02:35:29,359
how this game's going to play out

4009
02:35:32,870 --> 02:35:31,600
um you know there are players that uh

4010
02:35:33,910 --> 02:35:32,880
you know a lot of people don't talk

4011
02:35:37,429 --> 02:35:33,920
about like uh

4012
02:35:39,590 --> 02:35:37,439
you know us on the ground here and uh um

4013
02:35:40,710 --> 02:35:39,600
you know that's that's a big factor you

4014
02:35:43,750 --> 02:35:40,720
know we the people

4015
02:35:46,150 --> 02:35:43,760
uh written in the constitution so um

4016
02:35:48,790 --> 02:35:46,160
i think a lot of us have to uh come

4017
02:35:50,469 --> 02:35:48,800
forward uh there is a poor me stage and

4018
02:35:52,230 --> 02:35:50,479
a why me stage

4019
02:35:53,990 --> 02:35:52,240
and then there's a stage eventually if

4020
02:35:56,550 --> 02:35:54,000
you do this healthy enough you can go

4021
02:35:57,349 --> 02:35:56,560
about it uh to what do i do with this

4022
02:35:59,590 --> 02:35:57,359
new life

4023
02:36:01,510 --> 02:35:59,600
and i have to accept it eventually and

4024
02:36:03,510 --> 02:36:01,520
move forward with it and uh

4025
02:36:04,870 --> 02:36:03,520
you don't live a whole life if you you

4026
02:36:07,270 --> 02:36:04,880
don't do something with it

4027
02:36:08,230 --> 02:36:07,280
and um i see that kind of suffering

4028
02:36:10,469 --> 02:36:08,240
every day

4029
02:36:12,070 --> 02:36:10,479
so that's a big factor that is a huge

4030
02:36:16,950 --> 02:36:12,080
factor and uh

4031
02:36:18,469 --> 02:36:16,960
we the people um uh like i said before

4032
02:36:20,309 --> 02:36:18,479
ugly people are always gonna put their

4033
02:36:21,910 --> 02:36:20,319
hands on a position of power and this is

4034
02:36:23,110 --> 02:36:21,920
a very powerful thing for the human

4035
02:36:26,070 --> 02:36:23,120
consciousness

4036
02:36:27,830 --> 02:36:26,080
so i believe it's going to be swayed in

4037
02:36:30,230 --> 02:36:27,840
many different directions by

4038
02:36:32,230 --> 02:36:30,240
people that want to do that you know put

4039
02:36:33,429 --> 02:36:32,240
it on the news is something that maybe

4040
02:36:35,590 --> 02:36:33,439
it's not

4041
02:36:37,030 --> 02:36:35,600
um yeah so i mean there's going to be a

4042
02:36:37,590 --> 02:36:37,040
lot of hands in the fire when it comes

4043
02:36:41,030 --> 02:36:37,600
to this

4044
02:36:42,150 --> 02:36:41,040
um there's greed there's power there's

4045
02:36:45,670 --> 02:36:42,160
war

4046
02:36:49,030 --> 02:36:45,680
um there are victims a lot of

4047
02:36:51,670 --> 02:36:49,040
confusion there's people that are

4048
02:36:52,710 --> 02:36:51,680
maybe overly religious that do not want

4049
02:36:55,429 --> 02:36:52,720
to accept it

4050
02:36:56,389 --> 02:36:55,439
uh it just there's nothing that won't

4051
02:36:57,990 --> 02:36:56,399
change

4052
02:37:00,230 --> 02:36:58,000
there's absolutely nothing that won't

4053
02:37:03,590 --> 02:37:00,240
change now what do you do when an uh

4054
02:37:05,429 --> 02:37:03,600
an experiencer comes to you and goes

4055
02:37:07,349 --> 02:37:05,439
where are the days of disclosure man

4056
02:37:10,710 --> 02:37:07,359
this is great

4057
02:37:12,630 --> 02:37:10,720
how do you respond uh i guess

4058
02:37:14,389 --> 02:37:12,640
you know most people can't see my smile

4059
02:37:16,870 --> 02:37:14,399
right now uh

4060
02:37:19,429 --> 02:37:16,880
it's it's not great it's not great keep

4061
02:37:21,030 --> 02:37:19,439
your head down keep working

4062
02:37:23,510 --> 02:37:21,040
keep doing the right work don't get

4063
02:37:25,429 --> 02:37:23,520
distracted by entertainment or what

4064
02:37:27,429 --> 02:37:25,439
people want to throw at you because

4065
02:37:28,630 --> 02:37:27,439
um you've got to keep your eye on the

4066
02:37:29,670 --> 02:37:28,640
ball you know there's a lot of

4067
02:37:32,870 --> 02:37:29,680
distractions

4068
02:37:35,270 --> 02:37:32,880
and i i always tell my friends i always

4069
02:37:38,070 --> 02:37:35,280
tell people that i work with

4070
02:37:40,550 --> 02:37:38,080
manage your distractions responsibly

4071
02:37:43,270 --> 02:37:40,560
don't get caught up on this or that

4072
02:37:44,710 --> 02:37:43,280
that he said she said uh the pulling

4073
02:37:47,349 --> 02:37:44,720
each other's hand in the same

4074
02:37:48,870 --> 02:37:47,359
hair in the sandbox it's um you know

4075
02:37:50,550 --> 02:37:48,880
quite ridiculous you know we've

4076
02:37:52,550 --> 02:37:50,560
we've got to push forward we've got to

4077
02:37:53,030 --> 02:37:52,560
go toward academics we've got to go

4078
02:37:54,790 --> 02:37:53,040
toward

4079
02:37:56,790 --> 02:37:54,800
understanding this whole thing i mean

4080
02:37:58,389 --> 02:37:56,800
what is going on we're on this blue rock

4081
02:38:01,670 --> 02:37:58,399
floating off

4082
02:38:03,349 --> 02:38:01,680
on the edges of a small galaxy um

4083
02:38:05,750 --> 02:38:03,359
wondering what kind of hamburger we're

4084
02:38:08,630 --> 02:38:05,760
going to eat later on you know so

4085
02:38:09,830 --> 02:38:08,640
uh we got a long way to go uh as far as

4086
02:38:12,710 --> 02:38:09,840
understanding all this

4087
02:38:13,590 --> 02:38:12,720
and don't let up when we think it's done

4088
02:38:15,030 --> 02:38:13,600
because it's not

4089
02:38:17,110 --> 02:38:15,040
you know disclosure is going to take a

4090
02:38:19,510 --> 02:38:17,120
lot of work by a lot of people

4091
02:38:21,030 --> 02:38:19,520
a lot's going on right now and yeah i

4092
02:38:23,670 --> 02:38:21,040
feel good about it too

4093
02:38:25,349 --> 02:38:23,680
um it's it's a big weight off my back to

4094
02:38:26,870 --> 02:38:25,359
know that so many people are waking up

4095
02:38:29,349 --> 02:38:26,880
to this understanding

4096
02:38:29,990 --> 02:38:29,359
um but you know fight it like we fight a

4097
02:38:32,469 --> 02:38:30,000
cold

4098
02:38:34,550 --> 02:38:32,479
you know vitamin c the heck out of it

4099
02:38:36,309 --> 02:38:34,560
and just because your symptoms lit up

4100
02:38:37,990 --> 02:38:36,319
it doesn't mean that you don't have to

4101
02:38:38,630 --> 02:38:38,000
keep going every day to make sure that

4102
02:38:41,349 --> 02:38:38,640
you're

4103
02:38:42,150 --> 02:38:41,359
eventually going to get better 100 now

4104
02:38:45,190 --> 02:38:42,160
and and

4105
02:38:48,790 --> 02:38:45,200
what do you have to say to

4106
02:38:53,349 --> 02:38:48,800
uh the members of this community

4107
02:38:54,389 --> 02:38:53,359
that now feel that the military is our

4108
02:39:01,190 --> 02:38:54,399
friend

4109
02:39:04,870 --> 02:39:01,200
working for us and they are bringing out

4110
02:39:08,150 --> 02:39:04,880
the secrets and now they are part of us

4111
02:39:10,710 --> 02:39:08,160
what do you say to those folks

4112
02:39:11,750 --> 02:39:10,720
well i i don't say anything to him i

4113
02:39:15,590 --> 02:39:11,760
don't talk to him

4114
02:39:19,349 --> 02:39:15,600
i'm busy uh

4115
02:39:20,790 --> 02:39:19,359
what a ridiculous thought you know uh i

4116
02:39:22,790 --> 02:39:20,800
you know i've been contacted by

4117
02:39:24,469 --> 02:39:22,800
counterintelligence i've been contacted

4118
02:39:26,550 --> 02:39:24,479
by these people that want to

4119
02:39:29,030 --> 02:39:26,560
give me information so i turn around and

4120
02:39:32,389 --> 02:39:29,040
give disinformation to the public

4121
02:39:34,150 --> 02:39:32,399
um classic move they're not our friends

4122
02:39:36,150 --> 02:39:34,160
they are there to keep state secrets

4123
02:39:38,070 --> 02:39:36,160
they are there for their own

4124
02:39:40,150 --> 02:39:38,080
uh they are not there for the american

4125
02:39:42,710 --> 02:39:40,160
people they didn't give

4126
02:39:43,910 --> 02:39:42,720
one damn about me knowing what was going

4127
02:39:46,469 --> 02:39:43,920
on in my life

4128
02:39:47,990 --> 02:39:46,479
um and you know i was just treated like

4129
02:39:51,510 --> 02:39:48,000
a subject to look at

4130
02:39:53,349 --> 02:39:51,520
you know uh so that little constitution

4131
02:39:55,429 --> 02:39:53,359
you know that that calls me an american

4132
02:39:57,910 --> 02:39:55,439
citizen and protect and serve

4133
02:39:58,630 --> 02:39:57,920
was thrown out the window the moment i

4134
02:40:00,630 --> 02:39:58,640
was uh

4135
02:40:02,550 --> 02:40:00,640
you know of interest you know joe furman

4136
02:40:05,030 --> 02:40:02,560
you he didn't know about me

4137
02:40:06,230 --> 02:40:05,040
and uh we talked through facebook after

4138
02:40:07,990 --> 02:40:06,240
he he learned

4139
02:40:09,910 --> 02:40:08,000
about me through the cia they're like

4140
02:40:13,590 --> 02:40:09,920
well yeah the eric mitchell case

4141
02:40:14,950 --> 02:40:13,600
joe didn't know um so it's a real slap

4142
02:40:17,190 --> 02:40:14,960
in the face

4143
02:40:19,830 --> 02:40:17,200
um you know for my own country you know

4144
02:40:20,630 --> 02:40:19,840
so are these people are heroes right now

4145
02:40:27,269 --> 02:40:20,640
no

4146
02:40:28,150 --> 02:40:27,279
everyone has a right to their own

4147
02:40:30,790 --> 02:40:28,160
opinion

4148
02:40:31,349 --> 02:40:30,800
but me personally as a father with my

4149
02:40:32,630 --> 02:40:31,359
children

4150
02:40:34,950 --> 02:40:32,640
going through the hell that i went

4151
02:40:36,630 --> 02:40:34,960
through i sure needed some help

4152
02:40:38,389 --> 02:40:36,640
and that's why i do what i do i help

4153
02:40:41,590 --> 02:40:38,399
people that i've never met

4154
02:40:43,590 --> 02:40:41,600
on a daily basis uh to make sure

4155
02:40:44,710 --> 02:40:43,600
that you know these people don't kill

4156
02:40:49,030 --> 02:40:44,720
themselves

4157
02:40:50,550 --> 02:40:49,040
know have a nervous breakdown and their

4158
02:40:51,110 --> 02:40:50,560
families have to suffer from those

4159
02:40:53,750 --> 02:40:51,120
things

4160
02:40:55,590 --> 02:40:53,760
do i get paid for it absolutely not you

4161
02:40:57,990 --> 02:40:55,600
know i could uh decide to go have some

4162
02:40:59,910 --> 02:40:58,000
ice cream instead you know maybe uh

4163
02:41:01,190 --> 02:40:59,920
buy a sports car and drive fast for a

4164
02:41:03,590 --> 02:41:01,200
few days you know

4165
02:41:05,510 --> 02:41:03,600
i can decide to live my life but i

4166
02:41:07,510 --> 02:41:05,520
choose to live this every day

4167
02:41:09,429 --> 02:41:07,520
um because i know it very well i'm

4168
02:41:11,429 --> 02:41:09,439
phonetic with it and i have a lot of

4169
02:41:13,830 --> 02:41:11,439
passion because it happened to me

4170
02:41:16,150 --> 02:41:13,840
um yeah i've been attacked i'm going to

4171
02:41:18,870 --> 02:41:16,160
be attacked but i'm also going to bounce

4172
02:41:22,550 --> 02:41:18,880
back 10 times as hard every time i do

4173
02:41:26,389 --> 02:41:22,560
were you um were you ever

4174
02:41:29,910 --> 02:41:26,399
intimidated physically or otherwise

4175
02:41:30,950 --> 02:41:29,920
a few times yes what happened i'll just

4176
02:41:34,309 --> 02:41:30,960
get a phone call

4177
02:41:36,950 --> 02:41:34,319
you need to shut the f up

4178
02:41:39,910 --> 02:41:36,960
um you know or something bad might

4179
02:41:41,750 --> 02:41:39,920
happen to you the same person called

4180
02:41:44,230 --> 02:41:41,760
some you know and i don't want to

4181
02:41:45,910 --> 02:41:44,240
mention these experiences names because

4182
02:41:49,190 --> 02:41:45,920
you know it's up to them to talk about

4183
02:41:51,429 --> 02:41:49,200
it i'm threatened by the same person

4184
02:41:53,510 --> 02:41:51,439
and i just basically i i'm not going to

4185
02:41:54,870 --> 02:41:53,520
use foul language on the air but i just

4186
02:41:57,750 --> 02:41:54,880
basically called him a

4187
02:41:58,550 --> 02:41:57,760
cough winker and went on with my

4188
02:42:01,269 --> 02:41:58,560
business

4189
02:42:01,750 --> 02:42:01,279
i'm not gonna let somebody intimidate me

4190
02:42:04,950 --> 02:42:01,760
and

4191
02:42:07,990 --> 02:42:04,960
what was uh what was the intention of it

4192
02:42:10,230 --> 02:42:08,000
i mean was it uh was it you

4193
02:42:11,110 --> 02:42:10,240
did they threaten your family to your

4194
02:42:15,830 --> 02:42:11,120
employment

4195
02:42:18,870 --> 02:42:15,840
your history what was the tactic

4196
02:42:20,950 --> 02:42:18,880
um basically something really bad could

4197
02:42:24,230 --> 02:42:20,960
happen to you if you keep going

4198
02:42:25,510 --> 02:42:24,240
you know and uh well something can bad

4199
02:42:27,349 --> 02:42:25,520
something bad can happen to me if i

4200
02:42:27,910 --> 02:42:27,359
cross the street when it's too busy you

4201
02:42:31,670 --> 02:42:27,920
know

4202
02:42:34,230 --> 02:42:31,680
most these guys in the cia you think

4203
02:42:35,750 --> 02:42:34,240
double 07 gun toting jumping over hoods

4204
02:42:38,870 --> 02:42:35,760
but they're actually nerds

4205
02:42:41,990 --> 02:42:38,880
you know they're um you know

4206
02:42:44,870 --> 02:42:42,000
their geneticists you know they're uh

4207
02:42:47,190 --> 02:42:44,880
not what you would be portrayed by tv i

4208
02:42:49,750 --> 02:42:47,200
mean as a matter of fact a whole lot

4209
02:42:51,590 --> 02:42:49,760
is not something that is portrayed by tv

4210
02:42:53,590 --> 02:42:51,600
it's a very different thing and we have

4211
02:42:55,910 --> 02:42:53,600
this entertainment mind

4212
02:42:57,750 --> 02:42:55,920
that's been raised by uh the television

4213
02:42:59,110 --> 02:42:57,760
box our whole lives from cartoons to

4214
02:43:00,950 --> 02:42:59,120
nowadays so

4215
02:43:02,469 --> 02:43:00,960
um when i reference what i've been

4216
02:43:04,070 --> 02:43:02,479
through in my life a lot of people have

4217
02:43:04,950 --> 02:43:04,080
no idea because it's completely

4218
02:43:07,590 --> 02:43:04,960
different than that

4219
02:43:08,630 --> 02:43:07,600
you know the um charade that's put in

4220
02:43:11,830 --> 02:43:08,640
front of us uh

4221
02:43:14,070 --> 02:43:11,840
is a theatrical um idea

4222
02:43:16,870 --> 02:43:14,080
it's uh it's much different than that

4223
02:43:20,550 --> 02:43:16,880
and uh i wanted to ask you about that

4224
02:43:23,110 --> 02:43:20,560
you brought up mockingbird earlier it uh

4225
02:43:25,429 --> 02:43:23,120
seems that no it doesn't seem that what

4226
02:43:28,469 --> 02:43:25,439
is going down today

4227
02:43:32,070 --> 02:43:28,479
um not only in the media but it is

4228
02:43:35,510 --> 02:43:32,080
its television and its movies uh

4229
02:43:38,710 --> 02:43:35,520
its its networks that

4230
02:43:43,269 --> 02:43:38,720
are dedicated to an

4231
02:43:45,590 --> 02:43:43,279
et agenda it is a constant thing

4232
02:43:47,030 --> 02:43:45,600
uh that is out there it's one thing for

4233
02:43:49,750 --> 02:43:47,040
our community

4234
02:43:50,389 --> 02:43:49,760
right but the whole world is seeing a

4235
02:43:56,950 --> 02:43:50,399
certain

4236
02:44:01,990 --> 02:43:56,960
alien invasions shoot-em-ups

4237
02:44:04,309 --> 02:44:02,000
any any any script that you can write

4238
02:44:06,630 --> 02:44:04,319
is being done today what what's the

4239
02:44:10,070 --> 02:44:06,640
message

4240
02:44:11,990 --> 02:44:10,080
social engineering

4241
02:44:14,469 --> 02:44:12,000
we're all socially engineered whether we

4242
02:44:17,429 --> 02:44:14,479
like to admit it to ourselves or not

4243
02:44:18,309 --> 02:44:17,439
um we're constantly bombarded by all of

4244
02:44:21,030 --> 02:44:18,319
this and

4245
02:44:21,830 --> 02:44:21,040
you know you got to find out who you are

4246
02:44:24,630 --> 02:44:21,840
you know and

4247
02:44:25,110 --> 02:44:24,640
put yourself in place to uh make the

4248
02:44:26,870 --> 02:44:25,120
most

4249
02:44:28,469 --> 02:44:26,880
in this world no matter what you do i

4250
02:44:31,990 --> 02:44:28,479
don't care if you repair shoes

4251
02:44:33,750 --> 02:44:32,000
but the thing is

4252
02:44:35,269 --> 02:44:33,760
you gotta turn it away you gotta you

4253
02:44:38,230 --> 02:44:35,279
gotta put it all down

4254
02:44:38,630 --> 02:44:38,240
and run your own race you know i mean we

4255
02:44:42,070 --> 02:44:38,640
are

4256
02:44:44,230 --> 02:44:42,080
born bread consumers uh we consume this

4257
02:44:45,990 --> 02:44:44,240
this tv stuff we consume all these

4258
02:44:48,790 --> 02:44:46,000
things we don't consume enough of

4259
02:44:50,710 --> 02:44:48,800
ourselves most people have stockholm

4260
02:44:53,030 --> 02:44:50,720
syndrome we like to be

4261
02:44:55,030 --> 02:44:53,040
who we're supposed to be what we're told

4262
02:44:57,349 --> 02:44:55,040
to be told to wear

4263
02:44:58,070 --> 02:44:57,359
you know i know a guy i know several

4264
02:44:59,990 --> 02:44:58,080
people that have

4265
02:45:02,469 --> 02:45:00,000
got a 30-year mortgage they can't afford

4266
02:45:05,830 --> 02:45:02,479
just to impress people they don't like

4267
02:45:08,710 --> 02:45:05,840
um so it's uh it's um

4268
02:45:10,550 --> 02:45:08,720
it's kind of nuts i mean the human race

4269
02:45:14,150 --> 02:45:10,560
is nuts i mean can you ever imagine

4270
02:45:16,550 --> 02:45:14,160
explaining all of what we do uh

4271
02:45:17,269 --> 02:45:16,560
to someone that has no concept uh

4272
02:45:19,190 --> 02:45:17,279
whatsoever

4273
02:45:20,309 --> 02:45:19,200
or why we do all these things you know

4274
02:45:22,469 --> 02:45:20,319
uh um

4275
02:45:24,150 --> 02:45:22,479
it's all based on consumerism instead of

4276
02:45:25,110 --> 02:45:24,160
the idea that uh we can be our own

4277
02:45:29,190 --> 02:45:25,120
person and not

4278
02:45:31,830 --> 02:45:29,200
told what to be all the time the uh

4279
02:45:32,950 --> 02:45:31,840
the idea of the government suddenly

4280
02:45:36,150 --> 02:45:32,960
being our friend

4281
02:45:39,510 --> 02:45:36,160
and disclosing uh an e.t

4282
02:45:40,150 --> 02:45:39,520
presence is although anything is

4283
02:45:47,429 --> 02:45:40,160
possible

4284
02:45:49,429 --> 02:45:47,439
isn't the government if that is the case

4285
02:45:51,269 --> 02:45:49,439
and for those that are supporting this

4286
02:45:54,070 --> 02:45:51,279
issue isn't the government

4287
02:45:55,110 --> 02:45:54,080
setting themselves up for answering a

4288
02:45:58,870 --> 02:45:55,120
lot of difficult

4289
02:45:59,510 --> 02:45:58,880
questions you brought up free energy for

4290
02:46:01,990 --> 02:45:59,520
example

4291
02:46:04,469 --> 02:46:02,000
right what you mean we could have had

4292
02:46:06,150 --> 02:46:04,479
free energy for the last 70 years

4293
02:46:08,309 --> 02:46:06,160
right is that what you're saying you

4294
02:46:11,269 --> 02:46:08,319
kept that from us we could have

4295
02:46:12,389 --> 02:46:11,279
solved hunger and electricity and heated

4296
02:46:15,750 --> 02:46:12,399
homes

4297
02:46:18,469 --> 02:46:15,760
uh all over this planet and instead

4298
02:46:19,190 --> 02:46:18,479
you put us through this hell right and

4299
02:46:22,389 --> 02:46:19,200
that's just

4300
02:46:24,070 --> 02:46:22,399
one example yeah yeah

4301
02:46:25,910 --> 02:46:24,080
yeah it's they're gonna have to play the

4302
02:46:30,309 --> 02:46:25,920
part for as long as they can

4303
02:46:33,110 --> 02:46:30,319
you know and uh that's it's sociopathic

4304
02:46:34,790 --> 02:46:33,120
they're not this is the biggest

4305
02:46:39,670 --> 02:46:34,800
misunderstanding that people have

4306
02:46:41,910 --> 02:46:39,680
a decent person has a lot of trouble

4307
02:46:43,510 --> 02:46:41,920
understanding that there are indecent

4308
02:46:45,830 --> 02:46:43,520
people in the world

4309
02:46:46,790 --> 02:46:45,840
and the most indecent people in the

4310
02:46:49,269 --> 02:46:46,800
world that we have

4311
02:46:51,030 --> 02:46:49,279
suffer from something called narcissism

4312
02:46:53,030 --> 02:46:51,040
not the name calling narcissism i'm

4313
02:46:55,030 --> 02:46:53,040
talking about the clinical term

4314
02:46:56,630 --> 02:46:55,040
where they cannot have enough power they

4315
02:46:58,070 --> 02:46:56,640
cannot have enough money they cannot

4316
02:47:01,030 --> 02:46:58,080
have enough people

4317
02:47:02,950 --> 02:47:01,040
um loving them or appreciating them in

4318
02:47:05,349 --> 02:47:02,960
some sort of shallow way

4319
02:47:07,750 --> 02:47:05,359
and you and i can't understand that kind

4320
02:47:10,870 --> 02:47:07,760
of thing i mean we're not that so

4321
02:47:11,269 --> 02:47:10,880
um it's not within our nature to be able

4322
02:47:16,630 --> 02:47:11,279
to

4323
02:47:17,990 --> 02:47:16,640
particular condition because these are

4324
02:47:20,630 --> 02:47:18,000
the people that go

4325
02:47:22,150 --> 02:47:20,640
uh for for power you know if the dalai

4326
02:47:24,230 --> 02:47:22,160
lama decided to be

4327
02:47:25,910 --> 02:47:24,240
um praising the united states i'd have a

4328
02:47:28,150 --> 02:47:25,920
ballot in my hand i'd be ready to go

4329
02:47:29,910 --> 02:47:28,160
i mean imagine this country imagine this

4330
02:47:31,590 --> 02:47:29,920
world you know if someone like that was

4331
02:47:33,670 --> 02:47:31,600
in a position of power but

4332
02:47:35,190 --> 02:47:33,680
he doesn't drive to do something like

4333
02:47:37,190 --> 02:47:35,200
that he doesn't have to feel

4334
02:47:39,269 --> 02:47:37,200
important being in a position he's

4335
02:47:41,590 --> 02:47:39,279
important because he knows himself

4336
02:47:42,710 --> 02:47:41,600
uh and he often giggles about it which

4337
02:47:46,389 --> 02:47:42,720
is enlightenment

4338
02:47:48,469 --> 02:47:46,399
you know and um that spiritual aspect

4339
02:47:50,469 --> 02:47:48,479
that also lives in that part of the

4340
02:47:53,670 --> 02:47:50,479
brain of the

4341
02:47:54,070 --> 02:47:53,680
empathy psychic ability um the ability

4342
02:47:57,110 --> 02:47:54,080
to

4343
02:47:59,510 --> 02:47:57,120
easily feel others emotions and um

4344
02:48:00,309 --> 02:47:59,520
you know that i believe is an evolution

4345
02:48:03,670 --> 02:48:00,319
of the mind

4346
02:48:06,870 --> 02:48:03,680
and uh i mean gosh

4347
02:48:08,150 --> 02:48:06,880
narcissism is what created

4348
02:48:09,830 --> 02:48:08,160
uh the problems that we have in the

4349
02:48:11,269 --> 02:48:09,840
first place if we want to put it in a

4350
02:48:12,870 --> 02:48:11,279
black and white perspective

4351
02:48:14,550 --> 02:48:12,880
i mean it's much more complicated than

4352
02:48:16,469 --> 02:48:14,560
that and complex but

4353
02:48:18,710 --> 02:48:16,479
um you know if we were to speak to a

4354
02:48:19,990 --> 02:48:18,720
child it would be basic narcissism that

4355
02:48:23,269 --> 02:48:20,000
runs this planet

4356
02:48:26,389 --> 02:48:23,279
um you know who wants war 24

4357
02:48:28,950 --> 02:48:26,399
7. the carnage

4358
02:48:30,070 --> 02:48:28,960
that you know oh my gosh you know that's

4359
02:48:31,830 --> 02:48:30,080
that's terrible

4360
02:48:33,269 --> 02:48:31,840
but there are people like that out there

4361
02:48:36,550 --> 02:48:33,279
and they want to ensue that

4362
02:48:39,750 --> 02:48:36,560
and and control as much as possible so

4363
02:48:40,710 --> 02:48:39,760
are they our friends maybe in their best

4364
02:48:44,150 --> 02:48:40,720
ability

4365
02:48:47,190 --> 02:48:44,160
maybe in their best

4366
02:48:47,510 --> 02:48:47,200
idea of that ability but when it comes

4367
02:48:50,870 --> 02:48:47,520
to

4368
02:48:52,950 --> 02:48:50,880
us maybe not enough now the

4369
02:48:56,389 --> 02:48:52,960
the question that i have especially with

4370
02:49:00,710 --> 02:48:56,399
the sightings that i have seen

4371
02:49:04,070 --> 02:49:00,720
i can't explain one thing away

4372
02:49:07,590 --> 02:49:04,080
with everything that i've seen why

4373
02:49:08,710 --> 02:49:07,600
do we have a beautiful orange sun-like

4374
02:49:12,230 --> 02:49:08,720
sphere

4375
02:49:12,870 --> 02:49:12,240
in hot springs arkansas but we don't

4376
02:49:16,230 --> 02:49:12,880
have it

4377
02:49:19,429 --> 02:49:16,240
over uh city hall in los

4378
02:49:21,349 --> 02:49:19,439
angeles well we do

4379
02:49:23,750 --> 02:49:21,359
we do it happens all the time i get

4380
02:49:25,510 --> 02:49:23,760
phone calls from all over the world

4381
02:49:27,190 --> 02:49:25,520
well yeah well that's not what i'm

4382
02:49:30,630 --> 02:49:27,200
suggesting here eric

4383
02:49:33,830 --> 02:49:30,640
i'm suggesting why isn't

4384
02:49:36,309 --> 02:49:33,840
cnn broadcasting from

4385
02:49:37,269 --> 02:49:36,319
los angeles city hall with something

4386
02:49:40,790 --> 02:49:37,279
about you know where

4387
02:49:44,630 --> 02:49:40,800
where is that and i've seen crazy things

4388
02:49:47,910 --> 02:49:44,640
i know what's going on i know it's real

4389
02:49:53,590 --> 02:49:47,920
but why don't we have the big

4390
02:49:57,030 --> 02:49:55,349
well like you were talking about earlier

4391
02:50:00,550 --> 02:49:57,040
it's a very very

4392
02:50:02,950 --> 02:50:00,560
embarrassing um position

4393
02:50:05,110 --> 02:50:02,960
for one person to sit in the hot seat

4394
02:50:07,429 --> 02:50:05,120
and say

4395
02:50:08,150 --> 02:50:07,439
you know here they are over american

4396
02:50:09,510 --> 02:50:08,160
soil

4397
02:50:11,990 --> 02:50:09,520
you know we're talking about them over

4398
02:50:14,230 --> 02:50:12,000
the ocean we're talking about them over

4399
02:50:15,030 --> 02:50:14,240
uh the other ocean but we're not talking

4400
02:50:16,950 --> 02:50:15,040
about

4401
02:50:18,790 --> 02:50:16,960
what's actually going on they have the

4402
02:50:19,349 --> 02:50:18,800
radar systems to pick these things up

4403
02:50:21,590 --> 02:50:19,359
they are

4404
02:50:23,269 --> 02:50:21,600
seeing them they know they're in numbers

4405
02:50:24,790 --> 02:50:23,279
all over the place and there's nothing

4406
02:50:27,110 --> 02:50:24,800
they can do about it

4407
02:50:28,870 --> 02:50:27,120
um so the best thing to do is not talk

4408
02:50:30,150 --> 02:50:28,880
about that at all and talk about them

4409
02:50:31,830 --> 02:50:30,160
over the ocean

4410
02:50:33,590 --> 02:50:31,840
try the waters a little bit and see how

4411
02:50:35,590 --> 02:50:33,600
the american people act i mean they're

4412
02:50:39,190 --> 02:50:35,600
not stupid they're intelligence

4413
02:50:42,389 --> 02:50:39,200
they will gustaf you know they're never

4414
02:50:45,830 --> 02:50:42,399
direct they will step around if you know

4415
02:50:48,469 --> 02:50:45,840
a person in your life and it that

4416
02:50:50,070 --> 02:50:48,479
isn't direct to you they goosed it you

4417
02:50:52,389 --> 02:50:50,080
know around with information

4418
02:50:54,309 --> 02:50:52,399
with you to see how you'll react you can

4419
02:50:55,030 --> 02:50:54,319
clearly see that that particular person

4420
02:50:57,429 --> 02:50:55,040
in your life

4421
02:50:58,389 --> 02:50:57,439
is a very manipulative person and not a

4422
02:51:01,110 --> 02:50:58,399
direct person

4423
02:51:03,030 --> 02:51:01,120
and that's what we're seeing with our um

4424
02:51:05,990 --> 02:51:03,040
quote unquote maybe government or

4425
02:51:07,110 --> 02:51:06,000
military or intelligence um they are

4426
02:51:08,309 --> 02:51:07,120
trying us out

4427
02:51:09,990 --> 02:51:08,319
is what they're doing with this

4428
02:51:11,429 --> 02:51:10,000
information which is why they call it a

4429
02:51:13,429 --> 02:51:11,439
weathering i don't know if they call it

4430
02:51:15,190 --> 02:51:13,439
a weathering on television

4431
02:51:17,510 --> 02:51:15,200
but i've been told personally that

4432
02:51:22,230 --> 02:51:17,520
that's what they call it a weathering

4433
02:51:26,070 --> 02:51:22,240
i um not to go into detail

4434
02:51:29,110 --> 02:51:26,080
but there was a a very specific moment

4435
02:51:29,670 --> 02:51:29,120
and i was out with a large group of

4436
02:51:34,309 --> 02:51:29,680
people

4437
02:51:37,910 --> 02:51:34,319
a hundred two 200 and uh we have

4438
02:51:39,670 --> 02:51:37,920
a pretty crazy sighting or two

4439
02:51:43,030 --> 02:51:39,680
or there was many but there were a

4440
02:51:46,870 --> 02:51:43,040
couple that were

4441
02:51:50,710 --> 02:51:46,880
freaking unexplainable okay just like

4442
02:51:53,910 --> 02:51:50,720
paradigm shift life-changing stuff

4443
02:51:55,510 --> 02:51:53,920
and rita and i were walking away from

4444
02:51:58,950 --> 02:51:55,520
that and we had this conversation

4445
02:52:02,550 --> 02:51:58,960
and i had said to her i said look if

4446
02:52:06,230 --> 02:52:02,560
wolf blitzer was here tonight

4447
02:52:08,389 --> 02:52:06,240
and saw what we saw would he talk about

4448
02:52:11,510 --> 02:52:08,399
it on the news tomorrow

4449
02:52:15,429 --> 02:52:11,520
and yeah right the answer is no

4450
02:52:16,790 --> 02:52:15,439
no no if he wanted to

4451
02:52:18,630 --> 02:52:16,800
i doubt it would show up on the

4452
02:52:21,110 --> 02:52:18,640
teleprompter you know there's

4453
02:52:23,030 --> 02:52:21,120
people that own the media there's people

4454
02:52:24,950 --> 02:52:23,040
and intelligence that let the media know

4455
02:52:27,910 --> 02:52:24,960
what they can and can't say

4456
02:52:29,269 --> 02:52:27,920
there are you know the owners of the six

4457
02:52:31,110 --> 02:52:29,279
major media

4458
02:52:32,469 --> 02:52:31,120
corporations are owned by the oil

4459
02:52:35,030 --> 02:52:32,479
corporations

4460
02:52:35,670 --> 02:52:35,040
um you know and they own the propaganda

4461
02:52:37,349 --> 02:52:35,680
as well

4462
02:52:39,349 --> 02:52:37,359
so not to sound too much like a

4463
02:52:40,469 --> 02:52:39,359
conspiracy theorist but if you do your

4464
02:52:43,750 --> 02:52:40,479
homework

4465
02:52:45,670 --> 02:52:43,760
um this this whole thing is you know

4466
02:52:48,150 --> 02:52:45,680
kind of rigged up a little bit

4467
02:52:49,750 --> 02:52:48,160
now um i actually wanted to end on that

4468
02:52:51,349 --> 02:52:49,760
note i can't believe that you said

4469
02:52:54,469 --> 02:52:51,359
conspiracy

4470
02:52:58,389 --> 02:52:54,479
one of the phenomenons that

4471
02:53:02,070 --> 02:52:58,399
we went phenomena uh phenomenons

4472
02:53:05,830 --> 02:53:02,080
no that's not a word the phenomena

4473
02:53:09,910 --> 02:53:05,840
that we went through in 2020

4474
02:53:10,630 --> 02:53:09,920
was the rise of the conspiracy theory

4475
02:53:14,230 --> 02:53:10,640
where

4476
02:53:17,670 --> 02:53:14,240
anything that you could think of

4477
02:53:19,110 --> 02:53:17,680
was turned into a conspiracy

4478
02:53:20,710 --> 02:53:19,120
and it didn't really matter what the

4479
02:53:24,150 --> 02:53:20,720
subject was

4480
02:53:26,469 --> 02:53:24,160
and our community is used to that right

4481
02:53:28,150 --> 02:53:26,479
we've got conspiracies all the time we

4482
02:53:30,389 --> 02:53:28,160
can talk about real ones

4483
02:53:33,670 --> 02:53:30,399
talk about fake ones but we know how to

4484
02:53:35,510 --> 02:53:33,680
deal with it and we don't lose our minds

4485
02:53:37,269 --> 02:53:35,520
but that's not what happened with this

4486
02:53:39,030 --> 02:53:37,279
country and the rest of the world in

4487
02:53:41,910 --> 02:53:39,040
2020

4488
02:53:42,950 --> 02:53:41,920
suddenly conspiracy theory was front and

4489
02:53:44,950 --> 02:53:42,960
center

4490
02:53:47,110 --> 02:53:44,960
and the rest of the world was buying

4491
02:53:50,870 --> 02:53:47,120
into it and didn't know how to

4492
02:53:52,150 --> 02:53:50,880
deal right and that was that was crazy

4493
02:53:54,309 --> 02:53:52,160
to witness

4494
02:53:55,429 --> 02:53:54,319
why why do you think that the world was

4495
02:53:58,389 --> 02:53:55,439
so

4496
02:54:00,150 --> 02:53:58,399
reticent in years past to even listen to

4497
02:54:03,510 --> 02:54:00,160
conspiracy theory

4498
02:54:06,790 --> 02:54:03,520
to suddenly like overnight believing

4499
02:54:08,870 --> 02:54:06,800
and buying into anything social

4500
02:54:10,630 --> 02:54:08,880
engineering it was decided a long time

4501
02:54:12,790 --> 02:54:10,640
ago that

4502
02:54:14,550 --> 02:54:12,800
we should ridicule anyone that questions

4503
02:54:17,670 --> 02:54:14,560
people in power i mean

4504
02:54:19,990 --> 02:54:17,680
a bunch of rich guys get together

4505
02:54:21,429 --> 02:54:20,000
decide how to get richer decide how to

4506
02:54:23,030 --> 02:54:21,439
get more powerful

4507
02:54:24,790 --> 02:54:23,040
they go to the same schools they live in

4508
02:54:27,110 --> 02:54:24,800
the same dormitories um

4509
02:54:28,150 --> 02:54:27,120
you know they they've met they i mean

4510
02:54:32,150 --> 02:54:28,160
they've met

4511
02:54:35,030 --> 02:54:32,160
um you know so psychological warfare is

4512
02:54:37,429 --> 02:54:35,040
is basically what that is i mean you

4513
02:54:38,070 --> 02:54:37,439
know i grew up in psychological warfare

4514
02:54:41,429 --> 02:54:38,080
calling

4515
02:54:43,510 --> 02:54:41,439
you know ufo people crazy um now that i

4516
02:54:44,790 --> 02:54:43,520
am one of those i realized that crazy is

4517
02:54:47,830 --> 02:54:44,800
not a diagnosis

4518
02:54:48,389 --> 02:54:47,840
whatsoever it's a self-policing word to

4519
02:54:50,309 --> 02:54:48,399
make

4520
02:54:51,590 --> 02:54:50,319
people feel uncomfortable about who they

4521
02:54:54,070 --> 02:54:51,600
are and

4522
02:54:54,870 --> 02:54:54,080
that's a lot of control for a lot of

4523
02:54:57,590 --> 02:54:54,880
people we

4524
02:54:58,710 --> 02:54:57,600
grow up socially needing acceptance from

4525
02:55:01,830 --> 02:54:58,720
our peers

4526
02:55:03,030 --> 02:55:01,840
and we're taught what that acceptance

4527
02:55:05,349 --> 02:55:03,040
should be

4528
02:55:06,230 --> 02:55:05,359
and uh that's god that's guys that's

4529
02:55:09,110 --> 02:55:06,240
what we live in

4530
02:55:11,510 --> 02:55:09,120
you know so um it's unfortunate but uh

4531
02:55:14,469 --> 02:55:11,520
you know there it is black and white

4532
02:55:15,670 --> 02:55:14,479
now do you think that there is a sense

4533
02:55:17,990 --> 02:55:15,680
of relief

4534
02:55:19,030 --> 02:55:18,000
for the millions of experiencers around

4535
02:55:21,030 --> 02:55:19,040
the world

4536
02:55:23,190 --> 02:55:21,040
where now this subject is being talked

4537
02:55:25,510 --> 02:55:23,200
about out front and in the media without

4538
02:55:28,870 --> 02:55:25,520
the x-files music being queued up

4539
02:55:32,070 --> 02:55:28,880
right where they can go back and go see

4540
02:55:35,750 --> 02:55:32,080
i told you so is there

4541
02:55:39,269 --> 02:55:35,760
is there an emotional release

4542
02:55:41,030 --> 02:55:39,279
there there's not much i told you so in

4543
02:55:41,990 --> 02:55:41,040
the quintessential experience here i

4544
02:55:45,269 --> 02:55:42,000
mean

4545
02:55:48,870 --> 02:55:45,279
you know we're way more humble than that

4546
02:55:52,469 --> 02:55:48,880
um you know i've i've got a a a group of

4547
02:55:55,190 --> 02:55:52,479
uh you know almost 400 solid people

4548
02:55:56,550 --> 02:55:55,200
you know um have the pictures videos

4549
02:55:59,429 --> 02:55:56,560
psychological

4550
02:56:00,870 --> 02:55:59,439
uh transformation uh strange abilities

4551
02:56:03,349 --> 02:56:00,880
and all that and

4552
02:56:04,230 --> 02:56:03,359
um they're wonderful people but they're

4553
02:56:07,510 --> 02:56:04,240
never gonna say

4554
02:56:11,030 --> 02:56:07,520
see told you so um there hasn't been

4555
02:56:11,510 --> 02:56:11,040
a huge amount of relief um but there has

4556
02:56:14,230 --> 02:56:11,520
been

4557
02:56:15,190 --> 02:56:14,240
um more opening where they're becoming

4558
02:56:17,910 --> 02:56:15,200
more open

4559
02:56:19,429 --> 02:56:17,920
you know um this particular creature is

4560
02:56:22,950 --> 02:56:19,439
very timid

4561
02:56:24,710 --> 02:56:22,960
uh very uh sensitive and um

4562
02:56:26,389 --> 02:56:24,720
you know that's why you don't see him in

4563
02:56:29,510 --> 02:56:26,399
droves everywhere

4564
02:56:31,269 --> 02:56:29,520
because they don't want to really force

4565
02:56:32,469 --> 02:56:31,279
their emotions or opinions on other

4566
02:56:33,910 --> 02:56:32,479
people because they completely

4567
02:56:35,429 --> 02:56:33,920
understand how that feels

4568
02:56:37,030 --> 02:56:35,439
they live that every single day of their

4569
02:56:40,389 --> 02:56:37,040
lives

4570
02:56:44,070 --> 02:56:40,399
so yeah there's going to be

4571
02:56:45,750 --> 02:56:44,080
in the future i could make a you know

4572
02:56:47,830 --> 02:56:45,760
being a holder on this stock market i

4573
02:56:48,550 --> 02:56:47,840
could make a prediction that we're we're

4574
02:56:50,950 --> 02:56:48,560
coming and

4575
02:56:52,950 --> 02:56:50,960
and uh there's going to be us in numbers

4576
02:56:54,389 --> 02:56:52,960
but it's going to be very peaceful

4577
02:56:56,309 --> 02:56:54,399
uh there's gonna be a lot more people

4578
02:56:58,630 --> 02:56:56,319
talking and um

4579
02:57:00,550 --> 02:56:58,640
it's gonna spread like wildfire i mean

4580
02:57:02,870 --> 02:57:00,560
we're all kind of done with uh

4581
02:57:04,550 --> 02:57:02,880
being shunned as human beings with

4582
02:57:05,349 --> 02:57:04,560
feelings and emotions and we've been

4583
02:57:07,110 --> 02:57:05,359
through hell

4584
02:57:09,590 --> 02:57:07,120
and most of us can't even talk about it

4585
02:57:12,950 --> 02:57:09,600
to our own spouse is much less

4586
02:57:13,750 --> 02:57:12,960
a radio station so um you know once that

4587
02:57:16,309 --> 02:57:13,760
opens up

4588
02:57:17,750 --> 02:57:16,319
and it is our responsibility not an

4589
02:57:20,230 --> 02:57:17,760
external influence but

4590
02:57:22,150 --> 02:57:20,240
um once that opens up and and we learn

4591
02:57:25,429 --> 02:57:22,160
to uh work together

4592
02:57:28,469 --> 02:57:25,439
and not be divided and conquered by a

4593
02:57:30,150 --> 02:57:28,479
social sphere or a situation

4594
02:57:32,630 --> 02:57:30,160
things are going to grow pretty fast and

4595
02:57:36,150 --> 02:57:32,640
i'm watching that behind the scenes so

4596
02:57:37,910 --> 02:57:36,160
we we are coming thank you so much what

4597
02:57:41,830 --> 02:57:37,920
a great conversation tonight

4598
02:57:45,269 --> 02:57:41,840
eric and uh before uh i say good night

4599
02:57:46,950 --> 02:57:45,279
where can everybody reach out to you

4600
02:57:50,950 --> 02:57:46,960
i'm hiding in a bunker somewhere and

4601
02:57:54,150 --> 02:57:50,960
nobody can find me yeah

4602
02:57:57,510 --> 02:57:54,160
no uh best place to reach me is facebook

4603
02:57:59,750 --> 02:57:57,520
um you know um i've got a kind of a

4604
02:58:02,309 --> 02:57:59,760
ridiculous facebook uh picture but

4605
02:58:03,349 --> 02:58:02,319
uh some movie people put it up for me

4606
02:58:05,110 --> 02:58:03,359
and the uh

4607
02:58:06,790 --> 02:58:05,120
you'll see some squiggly lines blue

4608
02:58:07,750 --> 02:58:06,800
lines behind my head that actually came

4609
02:58:11,269 --> 02:58:07,760
from my brain

4610
02:58:14,150 --> 02:58:11,279
in a uh nashville recording studio so

4611
02:58:14,870 --> 02:58:14,160
uh you can look me up there and um so

4612
02:58:17,750 --> 02:58:14,880
far

4613
02:58:19,670 --> 02:58:17,760
a whole lot of them already have yes we

4614
02:58:23,590 --> 02:58:19,680
have a big audience man

4615
02:58:25,190 --> 02:58:23,600
this was a great conversation oh oh uh

4616
02:58:28,309 --> 02:58:25,200
when when uh do you think the

4617
02:58:30,150 --> 02:58:28,319
documentary is going to be finished

4618
02:58:32,070 --> 02:58:30,160
uh i don't want to upset people by

4619
02:58:33,510 --> 02:58:32,080
giving a definite date but uh we're

4620
02:58:37,190 --> 02:58:33,520
looking at late summer

4621
02:58:38,389 --> 02:58:37,200
um oh that's nothing okay so 2021 late

4622
02:58:39,990 --> 02:58:38,399
summer

4623
02:58:41,429 --> 02:58:40,000
well you know people have to understand

4624
02:58:42,870 --> 02:58:41,439
there's you know a lot of editing that

4625
02:58:46,309 --> 02:58:42,880
needs to be done that takes a lot of

4626
02:58:47,750 --> 02:58:46,319
time but uh we are working on it and

4627
02:58:49,990 --> 02:58:47,760
hopefully we can get it done pretty

4628
02:58:53,190 --> 02:58:50,000
pretty fast thank you so much eric

4629
02:58:54,710 --> 02:58:53,200
be safe my best to the family and and

4630
02:58:56,469 --> 02:58:54,720
everybody around you

4631
02:58:58,389 --> 02:58:56,479
congratulations on everything and thank

4632
02:59:00,630 --> 02:58:58,399
you so much what a wonderful night on

4633
02:59:02,150 --> 02:59:00,640
the show thank you thanks for having me

4634
02:59:04,550 --> 02:59:02,160
on jimmy it was a pleasure you're the

4635
02:59:07,910 --> 02:59:04,560
best eric thank you so much

4636
02:59:11,429 --> 02:59:07,920
have a great night you too eric

4637
02:59:15,030 --> 02:59:11,439
mitchell and yeah as as we wrap the show

4638
02:59:16,790 --> 02:59:15,040
he gets another buzz on his phone

4639
02:59:18,550 --> 02:59:16,800
he's probably laughing right now this is

4640
02:59:19,990 --> 02:59:18,560
fade to black i am your host jimmy

4641
02:59:22,710 --> 02:59:20,000
church

4642
02:59:23,110 --> 02:59:22,720
yes eric's links for facebook are right

4643
02:59:26,389 --> 02:59:23,120
there

4644
02:59:28,150 --> 02:59:26,399
at jimmychurchradio.com what a great

4645
02:59:31,429 --> 02:59:28,160
conversation tonight tomorrow night

4646
02:59:33,429 --> 02:59:31,439
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4647
02:59:35,429 --> 02:59:33,439
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4648
02:59:36,950 --> 02:59:35,439
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4650
02:59:40,550 --> 02:59:39,120
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4651
02:59:42,790 --> 02:59:40,560
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02:59:47,429 --> 02:59:45,560
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4654
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4655
02:59:49,990 --> 02:59:49,359
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4657
02:59:55,990 --> 02:59:53,600
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4658
02:59:57,429 --> 02:59:56,000
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4659
02:59:58,710 --> 02:59:57,439
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4660
03:00:00,710 --> 02:59:58,720
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4661
03:00:02,550 --> 03:00:00,720
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4662
03:00:03,269 --> 03:00:02,560
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4663
03:00:04,950 --> 03:00:03,279
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4664
03:00:06,389 --> 03:00:04,960
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03:00:08,150 --> 03:00:06,399
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4666
03:00:10,070 --> 03:00:08,160
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4667
03:00:11,510 --> 03:00:10,080
until tomorrow night with terry lovelace

4668
03:00:24,270 --> 03:00:11,520
i want everybody to be

4669
03:00:35,170 --> 03:00:24,280
safe it's time to fade to black

4670
03:00:50,830 --> 03:00:36,830
[Music]

4671
03:00:50,840 --> 03:00:54,210
so